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01-28-02, 09:25
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DETAILKING is offline
Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 3,211 | Liquid Glass (intersting info from customer service)---> Check out this info I came across----> What do you think?
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After reading the posts about Liquid Glass, I asked their technical support. Here is the response I got:
"Liquid Glass Polish/Finish has not contained abrasive cleaning agents in
almost twenty years. Liquid Glass Polish/Finish is clearcoat safe and does
not contain abrasives of any kind. A paint surface that is not perfectly
clean, and ready to be sealed and protected, must be cleaned with another
product prior to application of Liquid Glass Polish/Finish. Liquid Glass
Polish/Finish will not cut into clearcoat or remove oxidation and scratches.
Multiple coats of Liquid Glass Polish/Finish will add additional protection
and deeper gloss. The more coats applied the better the protection, and the better the "depth" of the gloss."
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01-28-02, 09:41
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waxman is offline
Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 790 | Liquid Glass does have a high solvent content(not as high as a paint cleaner like Meguiars though), so applying another coat may possibly remove some of the first coat. | |
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01-28-02, 09:53
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Yell00ITR is offline
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 281 | I think it is the nomenclature difference...a lot of people here equate products that are full of solvents with abrasives.
I always think of the difference as being a physical paint cleaner versus a chemical paint cleaner.
I assume what the tech support tells you is true. Why would you not believe it? | |
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01-28-02, 09:54
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MikeLS is offline
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 645 | LG info I emailed them too recently, here's what they said: I was aksing them about FinishFirst as well in comparison to their product...
"Liquid Glass Polish/Finish is designed to seal and protect new or well maintained finishes. Liquid Glass Polish/Finish contains no cleaners or abrasives and will not clean or restore a paint finish that is worn or oxidized.
Many companies claim to manufacture products that are "just like", "as good as", or "work like", Liquid Glass Polish/Finish. Liquid Glass Polish/Finish consists of a unique carbon based formula that is often imitated but has never been duplicated.
Thank you for your e-mail."
I went ahead and bought a can to use on a relative's Black Silverado truck. | |
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01-28-02, 10:27
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| | Not an Obsessed Detailer
waxman is offline
Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 790 | Here are the ingredients listed in order as on the Liquid Glass container:
Active ingredients: Aliphatic hydrocarbons, amino polymers, ultra-violet sunscreen inhibitors, moisturizers, conditioners, rust inhibitors, mild inert cleaning agents, aliphatic petroleum solvents.
Contains no silicones or waxes. | |
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01-28-02, 10:28
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MikeLS is offline
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 645 | My can says:
Clear Coat Safe, Contains No Abrasives (all in bold at upper right corner)
Active Ingredients: Aliphatic hydrocarbons, amino polymers, ultra-violet sunscreen inhibitors, moisturizers, conditioners, rust inhibitors, mild inert cleaning agents, aliphatic solvents.
And, it comes with a Life-time warranty
That's all it mentions about any polishing, cleaning, or abrasives. But, it also says "improved formula" on the front as well... | |
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01-28-02, 10:40
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Chuckmotor is offline
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 651 | How is the shine and gloss with Liquid Glass? Since it supposadly has no cleaners, is it applied like a wax and spread over the car, then buffed out after it dries?
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01-28-02, 11:05
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DETAILKING is offline
Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 3,211 | Mild inert cleaning agents..... Anyone want to take a stab at this? If it is inert, it means it is not doing anything chemically. The only other way to clean is mechanically. Make your own conclusions.
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01-28-02, 11:44
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dbrooks is offline
Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10 | Re: Mild inert cleaning agents..... Quote: Originally posted by DETAILKING Anyone want to take a stab at this? If it is inert, it means it is not doing anything chemically. The only other way to clean is mechanically. Make your own conclusions. | why are we scruitinizing lg? even if these "mild inert cleaning agents" do exhibit abrasiveness, so what? It goes back to the question... Are abrasives bad when incorporated in a paint sealant? I really doubt you'll get clear coat failure as a result of using liquid glass regularly and applied as directed.
I've used both liquid glass and zaino. And my experience has been the shine is fantastic with both. In fact, I believe detailking posted an article awhile back showing liquid glass had a higher initial shine and reflectivity using some kind of photoelectronic meter. I tend to agree with the article results. The lg shine doesn't last as long, but no biggie if you detail on a regular basis as most of the autopians do.
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01-28-02, 12:01
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waxman is offline
Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 790 | Yes LG is a good product that has been around for a long time, providing lasting protection and is easy to apply and remove. It also has a great shine. | |
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01-28-02, 12:05
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Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A Bourbon Street Balcony Posts: 3,210 | Wasn't there a pic of a black VW ... kinda looked like black chrome and he said he used LG....It was a great pic!
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01-28-02, 02:43
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bigboyhf is offline
Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South Florida Posts: 740 | I have used LG PreCleaner which is similar to PPCL but I think it is easier to apply/remove. Says it does not contain abrasives, cleans chemically. It works great to remove any type of coating on your windshield/glass.
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