3M Imperial Hand Glaze on new car? (and other questions)

kreativ · 01-08-02, 02:34

I was given a bottle of 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and a can of One Grand Blitz Wax as a "new car" gift. I've heard this is a good combination? I have some questions though, which I hope all you etailing experts can answer.

1. Should I be using the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze on a new car? Or is it for later on if the paint gets oxidized or develops fine scratches?

2. Does the 3M IHG take off any wax coating for me, or do I have to strip the wax off the car first before applying it?

3. I've heard of people applying multiple coats of One Grand blitz wax a few weeks apart. I've also heard pure caranuba wax can't be layered like the polymer protectants. Which one's correct?

Guess My Name · 01-08-02, 05:36

Welcome to the worlds best detailing forum!!!

Ihg is a scratch remover that uses fillers mainly. It can remov e waxes since it does have solvents in it.

Carnubas can be layered. SO a search on here for layering wax and see what comes up.

There is a ton of info on this forum so enjoy.

DETAILKING · 01-08-02, 06:14

3M imperial hand glaze basically coats your car with a thin film of oil. It provides a very high gloss, and hides defects and fills in scratches. I doesn't seem to have much cleaning ability, so I would dawn wash the car first to remove whatever is presently on the car.

Most of us believe 3M imperial hand glaze is best suited for garaged queens or just before showing or selling a car, as it really has no durability.

However, when used with a carnuba, it is a good first step product to use. The carnuba will add oil and gloss and seal it in with a carnuba layer.

If you read some of the archives you will get a feel for how most of us feel about carnuba durability and protection alone on a daily driver, but you chose a good product, blitz is durable for a carnuba product. Plan on replenishing every month to month in a half. Layering a carnuba doesn't really extend the durability, but there are tricks to use to obtain more shine.

Once you use up all your blitz or don't have the time to replenish every 1-1.5 months you might want to consider trying a synthetic polish system.

Hope this helps

kreativ · 01-08-02, 04:23

Thanks for the tips.

Klasse AIO is starting to look pretty good. It'll take off whatever wax was applied by the dealer in the same step as adding protection. And with one layer I'm set for half a year. Nice...

And from all indications, it's even safe on new car paints.

If there are any reasons not to use Klasse AIO on a new car, speak up!

Thanks

ru1thirst · 01-08-02, 04:42

No probs with AIO on a new car but just make sure to take advantage of the whole Klasse system. Follow up your application of AIO with a few layers of Klasse SG. It's been my experience (on my new car) that 3 layers of SG is plenty and followed by Blitz, gives me the best shine and protection that I have come across.

wahooB5 · 01-09-02, 10:17

kreativ,

DETAILKING is right on (as usual). However, if you are a detailing newbie, on a budget or pressed for time (as I am on all 3) I suggest that you go ahead and apply the IHG and Blitz. I use it exlusively on my new black car -- when I run out, I'll step up to whatever is the best at that time.

IHG/Blitz is so easy to apply, not foolproof but close to it, that it will help you learn the proper techniques before going onto Klasse/Zaino/BF. Also, you can do both in one session and be done in a few hours. Multple layers of a synthetic like Klasse will take you the weekend, depending on who long you let it cure.

FWIW, I have found that the blitz protection lasts 3-4 months (just based on beading).

whatever product you choose, make sure you get the correct and best applicators and towels (plenty of research on this forum so I won't make any statements). The proper tools of the trade really make the difference.

Don2000g · 01-09-02, 10:27

There's no problem with using Klasse AIO on a new car. None!

Intermezzo · 01-09-02, 10:34

Good post Mozhna.

Couple of questions:

Was it beading from rain or from washing your car? No swirl-marks resurfaced for 3-4 months?

Can you describe how IHG is applied (in a nutshell)? The IHG is used to fill in swirls and increase the shine, right?

Thanks!

DETAILKING · 01-09-02, 10:55

minus the carnuba. It applies and removes easy. I tend to do one panel at a time as no drying time is required.

I find it hard to believe that even Blitz lasts more than 2 months MAX with no drop in gloss or waterbeading. Perhaps it would on a garaged car under the right string of weather paterns, but that is about it in my opinion.

wahooB5 · 01-10-02, 02:06

Intermezzo330I: since my car was/is new, I have not had to battle swirl marks yet (I always try to practice the proper washing technique, etc.) so I can't comment on swirl mark hiding longevity. I apply with a foam pad, careful not to use too much (maybe a dime size glob for 1/2 panel). Let dry and the buff off with a clean MF towel. You go through MF towels quickly due to the residue. The cleaner the towel, the easier it is to buff. Too much product + inadequate MF towel(s) = aggravation.

DETAILKING: I did not say there was not drop in quality, just that beading is still taking place so some level of protection is still there. Right after application, rain doesn't even touch the car. You can drive through a rainstorm and end up with a somewhat dry car in the garage. Over time this does diminish. At the 2 month point, I can live with the remaining qualities (shine, etc.) while I know many on this board would not.

Intermezzo · 01-10-02, 03:50

Your original message:

"I was given a bottle of 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and a can of One Grand Blitz Wax as a "new car" gift. I've heard this is a good combination? I have some questions though, which I hope all you etailing experts can answer. "

What an excellent gift!!

"1. Should I be using the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze on a new car? Or is it for later on if the paint gets oxidized or develops fine scratches? "

3M works fine on a new car. It's purpose is to hide swirls/scratches, provide glossiness to your clearcoat, and provide very mild cleaning ability.

"2. Does the 3M IHG take off any wax coating for me, or do I have to strip the wax off the car first before applying it? "

The solvent content of IHG will remove some wax, but it would probably be better to Dawn wash first.

"3. I've heard of people applying multiple coats of One Grand blitz wax a few weeks apart. I've also heard pure caranuba wax can't be layered like the polymer protectants. Which one's correct?"

A carnauba wax won't layer as well as a polymer sealant due to the fact that all carnauba based waxes have a good amount of solvent in them. If you were to apply a coat of Blitz every day, each coat would only provide a marginal benefit. But I think applying a coat every 2-3 weeks is fine, just to be sure you always have a fresh layer of protection on your car.

Here's a car that had IHG and Blitz applied 3 weeks ago:

Intermezzo · 01-10-02, 03:51

Oops, the picture didn't work. Let me try it again: