Perfect-It III and Einszett Polish

[Nick T.]

This past week I acquired Einszett’s Metallic Polish and their Paint Polish as well as 3M’s Perfect-It III Machine Glaze (05937) and their Finishing Glaze (05941) and spent most of this weekend using them on my roadster. Lately I’ve been focused on <I>doing</I> rather than <I>experimenting</I>, so this isn’t really a review - just a few comments. BTW, I only tried these products with a RO buffer, not by hand.

Einszett Paint Polish, at $13 for 500ml (16.9oz) and 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze, at $26 for a quart, are very similar in both performance and price . Both are outstanding as mildly abrasive swirl mark removers.

Einszett Metallic Polish, at $13 for 500ml (16.9oz) and 3M Perfect-It III Finishing Glaze, at $19 for a quart, are very similar in performance, while the 3M product is a little less expensive. Both are outstanding as very mildly abrasive final polishes/glazes.

The Einszett (which means <I>One Z</I> and suits me as a recovering Zainoholic and a Z3 driver who applies liquid product in the shape of a “<B>Z</B>”) comes in different colored containers - like Klasse - making it easier to grab the correct product. That’s a plus for Einszett! The Einszett containers have a rather large opening, making it difficult to apply small amounts of product without some spilling. That’s a minus for Einszett.

For the time being I’ve decided to limit my product experimentation and focus more on improving my methods and techniques with a single set of products. For the abrasives my choice will be the 3M line.

[jsoto]

Been trying out 1Z products myself. What I do is pour their stuff in smaller bottles as I can dispense them alot use than trying to use their tin cans

[Nick T.]

Originally posted by jsoto
Been trying out 1Z products myself. What I do is pour their stuff in smaller bottles as I can dispense them alot use than trying to use their tin cans

Great idea!

[OUCH]

Hey where did you get the 3M Machine Glaze, and how does it compare to DACP? Which one is more abrasive, if the same which one do you think is better

[Nick T.]

OUCH, I get my 3M products from a local paint store. There are two paint stores in the nearest town with concrete sidewalks (about 30 minutes away) and both carry a good selection of 3M and other car paint care products even though they are primarily selling house paint.

Can’t compare to DACP since I’ve never used it. Without doing a side-by-side comparison it’s hard to say with any real accuracy, but I think that the PI-3 Machine Glaze is a little more abrasive than Meg’s #9 and PI-3 Finishing Glaze is a little less abrasive than #9.

When it comes to polishes/cleaners/glazes I don’t really think that there is a “better” product. You need to match the abrasiveness to your needs, and the filling to your desires. Ummm, now that I've said that, there may be some of these products that fall into the "not very good" category - but 3M. Meg's. Mothers, Einszett, and most others don't fall there.

[OUCH]

Oh cool thanks for the input, right now I have DACP really wanted 3M Machine Glaze but couldn't find it anywhere else but online. Maybe I'll just wait till I'm almost done with DACP before I buy 3M MG

[2hotford]

DACP is more aggressive than PI-III MG #05937and less than Meg's #9 just like Nick thought. I have and use them all. I really love DACP with the rotary. PI-III MG from my understanding was designed for the rotary though several on here use it with the PC and get great results.

Try finding the PI-III from autobody supply stores in your area. It is not cheap but it is really good stuff!!!

[rain-on]

Nick T -
When you used 3M's PI-III, did you use the black foam waffle pad?

I used this product once and the outcome was outstanding. Easy to work with and made the clear slick as glass.

Thanks

[Malibu]

I did a quick side-by-side comparison of the PI-III and Paint Polish on a red 02 Jetta I did today. To my eyes, the 3M seemed slightly more aggressive than the Paint Polish. Both worked great though!

Mike

[Nick T.]

2hotford - - I’m either confused or confusing or both!

I’ve never used DACP so I didn’t include it in my response to OUCH, but from what I’ve heard it is more aggressive than Meg’s #9 or PI-3 Machine Glaze.

I have used Meg’s #9 quite a bit and also fairly recently, but I did not do a side-by-side comparison of #9 to PI-3 Machine Glaze or Finishing Glaze. Maybe I burned too many doobies in the ‘60s and my memory is gone, but after using both PI-3 MG and FG this weekend my impression is that the PI-3 MG is a little more aggressive than Meg’s #9, and that PI-3 FG is a little less aggressive than Meg’s #9.

The PI-3 MG’s bottle says that it is to be used with a rotary, but I was pleased with it on my Porter Cable RO buffer. The PI-3 FG’s bottle says that it is to be used by hand or with a DA. I didn’t try it by hand.

Rain-on - - I used CMA’s pads. With the Machine Glaze I tried both the yellow (medium cut) cutting pad and the white (light cut) polishing pad. With the Finishing Glaze I used both the white (light cut) polishing pad and the gray (no cut) finishing pad. I used speed settings of 4.5 to 5 with the yellow pad, 4.0 to 4.5 with the white pad, and 3.5 to 4.0 with the gray pad. I don’t have a lot of Porter Cable experience, so I’m still in the learning stage about pad, speed, and product combinations.

[2hotford]

Originally posted by Nick T.

Can’t compare to DACP since I’ve never used it. Without doing a side-by-side comparison it’s hard to say with any real accuracy, but I think that the PI-3 Machine Glaze is a little more abrasive than Meg’s #9 and PI-3 Finishing Glaze is a little less abrasive than #9.

Nick, I was commenting on your speculation of the Meg #9 and the PI-III MG. Since I have and use both, I can offer IMHO that #9 is indeed less aggressive than PI-III MG. Moreover, I can add to the comments that DACP is more aggressive than PI-III MG. Sorry, I think the confusion was more on my part than yours; I should have been more clear, sorry!

Your OK, the 60's has not left a long lasting affect, at least not mentally!!! LOL!!

[F1Crazy]

Nick,
Take a look at this review of PI-III Machine Glaze and quick comparison of several other products posted by geekysteve: 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze .

You will find the results quite interesting. I think I'm going to give this product a try as I can't find DACP in a quart bottle locally anymore.