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Old 07-09-02, 08:53   #13 (permalink)
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Fair enough,

If anybody wants to try this combo, just know that there is some concern over the durability.

You may have to re-apply the Z2 more often because it may not be bonding as well as it should because of the #7.

I'm suggesting you try it for the look it provides.

If you are the type of person who can't stop polishing your car anyway you may like this combo.
 
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Souveran over #7

I have used Souveran over #7 and like the combo.

However, I hate to say it but to me Mothers Carnuba is a better product than Souveran.

Souveran often leaves oily wipe marks behind. It also sweats and leaves behind a white oilyness after sitting in the sun for a few hours.

But to answer you question, yes I have up until last week always found # 7 followed by a good Carnuba to be the best look possible on dark cars. I just said what the hell, I will try Zaino on top of the #7 to see what it looked like.

Very impressed with the look, but like you will stick with just straight Zaino on cars I don't see but twice a year or so.
 
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How is this for a compromise. On virgin paint layer Zaino. After maybe 10 coats layer some #7 followed by Z2 or Z5. Hell, nothing wrong with experimenting on a garage queen... durability is not an issue.
My question is this: Is there any abrasives in #7 or is it a pure glaze? What about the solvents in #7, will it degrade the base Zaino?
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Yes, solvents in glazes will degrade polymer products over time.
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#7 not a pure glaze

#7 is not a pure glaze and it has some mild cleaners in it. It you wan't a pure glaze you should try New Car Glaze as opposed to Show Car glaze.

The reason I used #7 or SCG is the cars I used it on needed some light cleaning after washing. Nothng requiring a buffer or compound just some ultra fine maring from washing etc. When I put on Zaino you could see the paint underneath needed some help. The #7 took car of that need plus deepened the paint color like a carnuba does.

I haven't tried your compromise but will soon. My only question is will the oils in the #7 be blocked by the Z2? Will find out soon though.

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Re: #7 not a pure glaze

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#7 is not a pure glaze and it has some mild cleaners in it. It you wan't a pure glaze you should try New Car Glaze as opposed to Show Car glaze.
Despite what Meguiars may try to tell you, show car glaze and new car glaze are not as different as you think. They can package it and market it any way they want... it's the same juice.

Meguiar's Hand Polish, on the other hand has a completely different consistency, application technique & final result. It's also much easier to use than #7 and is, IMO, their best glaze.

Also, I've never had the same problems you had with Souveran. I'm in agreement with the others. While I'm sure Zaino on top of a pure polish may look terrific, why not just use a carnauba wax instead of Z?
 
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hand polish vs. #7

I have used wax over glazes thousands of time. I just wanted to try something different. I felt the look was different than when I toped glaze with Carnuba. This is why I started the thread.

The hand polish dries up to quickly when used with a foam pad on a high speed buffer, but works great on a perfect car by hand.

#7 Will remove ultra light scratches with just a hand application. I like the hand polish too but on cars that have been driven daily and slightly neglected, I prefer the polishing qualitys of #7. That is why one is for new cars and one is for show cars. Yes they are similar but not the exact same product. I have actually been through gallons of both products though.

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