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11-02-09, 08:50
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Lotus Exige S
Rob Tomlin is offline
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
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The paint looked very dull and IMO uncared for. Not much gloss and honestly quite sad looking. After spending hours prepping it I think it looks much better.
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I don't think you understood my question.
I'm not asking what it looked like before you did your prep or whether it looked better after that.
I'm asking what the paint looked like just before you put the UPGP on it. Did it look wet, glossy, and shiny with depth?
Did the paint look better, worse, or about the same after applying UPGP?
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11-02-09, 10:26
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
This is paint preped right with UPGP in full sun. 
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11-03-09, 07:20
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
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This is paint preped right with UPGP in full sun. 
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Mine looks just like that, at the extreme angle you took the picture at. Do you have any that are at about 45 degrees? IMO, more than 45 degrees, and it looks much flatter than other sealants and worse than my bare paint after 105 and 205. I think it looks pretty flat at 90 degrees.
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11-03-09, 12:25
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Rebelranger is online now
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin
I don't think you understood my question.
I'm not asking what it looked like before you did your prep or whether it looked better after that.
I'm asking what the paint looked like just before you put the UPGP on it. Did it look wet, glossy, and shiny with depth?
Did the paint look better, worse, or about the same after applying UPGP?
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Prior to the UPGP, it looked glossy but not stunningly so.....After applying the UPGP it looked much -- much better, more depth, and more gloss
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11-03-09, 12:27
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Mine is very similar to the legacy99 photos and at angles its not too impressive. I hope I can get out of work early enough to take a few photos to post.
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11-03-09, 04:20
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Can we at least see some pic's.
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11-03-09, 05:36
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Lotus Exige S
Rob Tomlin is offline
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
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Originally Posted by Rebelranger
Prior to the UPGP, it looked glossy but not stunningly so.....After applying the UPGP it looked much -- much better, more depth, and more gloss
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In that case I have to say: I don't understand the point of this thread.
You are "not super pleased" with UPGP, but based on your comments above, you should, in fact, be EXTREMELY pleased that you saw "much better, more depth, and more gloss" following application.
In my opinion, you are expecting/asking too much from your LSP.
I would also say that if the paint did not look as glossy, wet, and deep as you wanted it to look, you need to re-evaluate your prep work, not UPGP or your LSP.
Please take this post in the spirit it was intended: to help you learn, not to criticize. 
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11-03-09, 08:38
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Thanks Rob, (and everyone)
Understand the intent and welcome the comments. The intent of this thread is to understand what and if I did something wrong in my prep and applications of UPGP.Let me get some pics up so that it can really be fairly evaluated (worked until dark tonight) . I think my expectation was a more wet and glossy look which is what I've seen posted as results of others using UPGP. My lesson so far is I need a polisher....spend time on the prep and research products that will produce the results I want and use them.... My expectations may have been out of line to begin with...
Very good thread and many lessons.
As promised pictures will be posted as soon as I can take them!
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11-04-09, 07:23
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Finally pictures.
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11-04-09, 08:15
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
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Originally Posted by Rebelranger
Why is my prep work not good...?
Washed,
clayed
removed scratches
preped paint then spot removed a few more scratches (minor)--should I have re done the paint prep with UPP?
washed
then applied UPGP...waiting more than 12 hours between applications
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Are you saying that you washed the car after you applied the paint prep? Because it isn't supposed to be washed off, it should be buffed off with a towel.
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11-04-09, 08:20
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Then There is my problem. I certainly washed after paint Prep!!!!
Argh!!! I'll start again this weekend. Well great lesson learned!!!
Thanks Chicagoareanew
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11-04-09, 08:26
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Re: Just finished and not super pleased UPGP
Take some pictures in full sun at any angle and lets see what kind of reflections you get.
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