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11-04-09, 07:01
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
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OK, I finally got around to ordering my touch-up paint, and I think I'm going to bite the bullet and get the pen from MicroMark and do it right...
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I hope it doesn't disappoint you...while I'm standing by my recommendation it's not the micacle worker that some might expect The filaments sure do wear out quickly and, well...I wish you were closer so you could just try mine first. Heh heh, you could just use some of my Rust Encapsulator too
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There is one thing that I'm still concerned with - the rust encapsulator. I looked on Eastwood's site, and AFAICT, they only sell it in an aerosol. I don't think I'm good enough to use a spray without it going everywhere. And I don't need a quart, probably only an ounce or so. I was going to use the toothpick method in all phases
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While it's easy for me to spend your money I'd buy the quart. I know that *I* keep finding uses for it.
Or, you could get the aerosol and spray it into a container (away from the car in case of drift/overspray!) and apply from that.
Seriously, I'm *that* sold on the Rust Encapsulator!
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The only thing I've found so far is Plasti-kote Rust Not converter. Mar-Hyde looks like it's available by the pint, too, as are several others that I've not heard of before on Amazon.
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Those might be fine, just never know until you try 'em. But note that the converter doesn't really replace the Rust Encapsulator IMO, I use them both, converter first, then R E.
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I'm not opposed to using the Eastwood product, but buying a quart seems like huge overkill. I've no plans to treat any frames.
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Anything anywhere that's rusty would look a lot better with that stuff on it
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The other question I have is if I remove the rust with the pen, is the converter needed for any rust I can't see, or those microscopic specks of rust 'dust' that I might leave behind?
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Yes, still necessary. Ditto for the R E too IMO.
But for the umpteenth time, R E doesn't play nice with many touchup paints. Heh heh, I get the feeling you won't be buying R E, so try to be very diligent with the converter and when using the pen.
Buy refills for the pen while you're already getting nailed for the shipping.
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11-04-09, 09:50
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
Sigh. It's almost more trouble than it's worth.
You're right, I probably won't buy the encapsulator because of the possible issue with the paint. I think I'll just go with the converter and try my luck.
I ordered the ultra pen and refills, so hopefully that will be enough. Unfortunately, it's going to be next weekend before they are here. Another weekend wasted.
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11-05-09, 08:06
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
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Sigh. It's almost more trouble than it's worth..
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I sympathize. Heh heh, see why I seldom bother doing much about stonechips
Hint: tape off the area around the chip so the pen's filaments don't mar the surrounding paint. And try to trim the filaments with a razor blade so the "pen's tip" is the right size/shape.
Hope you ordered refills, you won't believe how fast the filament can wear!
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11-06-09, 05:04
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
I did. I think it came with 12.
I really wouldn't bother with this, except for the rust. Still haven't decided on the rust converter/encapsulator yet, but the pen and paint should be here middle of next week.
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11-06-09, 09:42
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
CocheseUGA- OK, cool on the refills
I'd just see how things go. It's not like a) you won't effect some improvement to the situation no matter how things turn out, b) you have to fix things 100% right now, and/or c) you can't redo it come spring.
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11-07-09, 08:03
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
harbor freight sells the fiberglass pens for 5$
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11-07-09, 08:48
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
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harbor freight sells the fiberglass pens for 5$
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The big pens or the little ones?
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11-09-09, 04:28
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
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harbor freight sells the fiberglass pens for 5$
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It'll probably fall apart in the bag.

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11-09-09, 10:06
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
Oh, that "fall apart" comment reminds me...
The fiberglass that makes up the filaments can be a (literal) pain if it gets into your skin, and I sure wouldn't want to breath it in.
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11-09-09, 10:36
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
Duly noted.
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11-10-09, 03:56
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
The pen arrived yesterday, much better shipping than I thought. I'm glad I bought the smaller one, it's still pretty big in comparison with the spot.
Hopefully I will be able to get this done on Saturday.
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11-10-09, 09:41
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Re: Rock chip...with rust
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The pen arrived yesterday, much better shipping than I thought. I'm glad I bought the smaller one, it's still pretty big in comparison with the spot..
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That's why you'll probably want to trip the tip of the filament with a razor blade (which is, BTW, easier said than done  ).
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