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07-03-09, 04:16
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#85 (permalink)
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David Strum
weekendwarrior is offline
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC (actually Iron Station, NC)
Posts: 1,406
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Re: wasted money. rant
You know, I started trying to streamline my arsenal a while back. This is what I have decided on making the "core" of my arsenal:
ONR:
Clay lube
Interior Wipedowns
Door Jams
Quick Detailer
Use it to remove polishes when they are "sticky"
Car Washes
I have a gallon of QEW (prefer it to ONR for washes)
I have a gallon of DuraGloss for regular washes
Glass
Zep cleaner from Home Depot - 1 gallon makes a bazillion when diluted
Engines, Wheel wells and Undercarriages
Any APC that is on sale, diluted to required strength
Dressings
Optimum Protectant Plus for leather, dash, and other interior surfaces.
Meguiar's Hyper Dressing diluted for engines, wheel wells, tires, etc
I will also keep a tire gel (one that's on sale) on hand for when more durability is needed.
Waxes/Sealants
Zaino, DuraGloss and FK1000 - sealants
CMW, Collinite, M26, and Sauveran - waxes
Polishes
M105
M205
M86
3M ECC
3M UF
SIP
106FF
Menz Final Polish
I can accomplish most everything needed with the chemicals listed above. I will probably have a fire sale soon in the classifieds.
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07-03-09, 01:21
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#86 (permalink)
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seismic is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 5
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Re: wasted money. rant
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Originally Posted by dan46n2
Be careful using Purple Power, it eats some types of plastic. I use it to strip Dulso coated interior pieces on my Vette when I refinish them. I would worry about it damaging plastic pieces in the engine, or at the least discoloring.
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Can you elaborate on this? I just used Purple Power in my engine bay (full strength per the recommendations on the back) and I noticed that it severely faded the rubber hoses in my engine bay and gave one of my belts a bit of a squeal when starting up the car. I wiped on some Klasse interior cleaner--just wanted to finish off the bottle--and it made them look new again.
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07-03-09, 01:55
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#87 (permalink)
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duke4ever is offline
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NYC/PA
Posts: 169
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Re: wasted money. rant
hehe I use Orange Blast degreaser it's usually on sale at walmart and works great...
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07-04-09, 04:52
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#88 (permalink)
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MmMmMm...Audi paint ;)
SoCalB6 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 279
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Re: wasted money. rant
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Originally Posted by weekendwarrior
You know, I started trying to streamline my arsenal a while back. This is what I have decided on making the "core" of my arsenal:
ONR:
Clay lube
Interior Wipedowns
Door Jams
Quick Detailer
Use it to remove polishes when they are "sticky"
Car Washes
I have a gallon of QEW (prefer it to ONR for washes)
I have a gallon of DuraGloss for regular washes
Glass
Zep cleaner from Home Depot - 1 gallon makes a bazillion when diluted
Engines, Wheel wells and Undercarriages
Any APC that is on sale, diluted to required strength
Dressings
Optimum Protectant Plus for leather, dash, and other interior surfaces.
Meguiar's Hyper Dressing diluted for engines, wheel wells, tires, etc
I will also keep a tire gel (one that's on sale) on hand for when more durability is needed.
Waxes/Sealants
Zaino, DuraGloss and FK1000 - sealants
CMW, Collinite, M26, and Sauveran - waxes
Polishes
M105
M205
M86
3M ECC
3M UF
SIP
106FF
Menz Final Polish
I can accomplish most everything needed with the chemicals listed above. I will probably have a fire sale soon in the classifieds.
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I have heard that M86 is very, very similar to SIP in terms of cut and finish. Have you tired them side by side to compare? That could free up some room plus, some $$$ too!
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07-05-09, 02:08
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#89 (permalink)
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WhiteStripes is offline
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 207
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Re: wasted money. rant
I rock Meg's APC+ for about anything that isn't paint, cloth or glass. Works on everything.
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07-09-09, 12:21
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#90 (permalink)
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MmMmMm...Audi paint ;)
SoCalB6 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 279
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Re: wasted money. rant
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStripes
I rock Meg's APC+ for about anything that isn't paint, cloth or glass. Works on everything.
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Interesting, how are you using (dilution) APC+ on glass?
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07-09-09, 05:18
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#91 (permalink)
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CocheseUGA is offline
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 245
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Re: wasted money. rant
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Originally Posted by SoCalB6
Interesting, how are you using (dilution) APC+ on glass?
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Read it again.
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07-09-09, 09:10
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#92 (permalink)
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has left the building
JuneBug is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Heart of North Carolina
Posts: 2,068
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Re: wasted money. rant
I'm with Weekend Warrior on this - I'm trying to reduce the number of products, problem is - I have a ton! I've found that for basic chemicals - my local detail store - Majestic Solutions has about everything I need, but I do like some Chemical Guys stuff too.
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07-09-09, 03:30
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#93 (permalink)
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duke4ever is offline
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NYC/PA
Posts: 169
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Re: wasted money. rant
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Originally Posted by JuneBug
I'm with Weekend Warrior on this - I'm trying to reduce the number of products, problem is - I have a ton! I've found that for basic chemicals - my local detail store - Majestic Solutions has about everything I need, but I do like some Chemical Guys stuff too.
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How's that chemical guys stuff? I've been very hesitant to try any chemical guys stuff because I've fished these forums and keep hearing about quality control problems with them. Although I haven't seen too much as of late, say late 2008-early 09.
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07-09-09, 03:42
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#94 (permalink)
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Got_Leather is offline
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Northern Va and Va Beach
Posts: 1,163
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Re: wasted money. rant
I have tons of crap I don't use anymore either. I have a few products that I use for a variety of things.
The one thing that ALWAYS bugs the hell out of me is when people brag about how they spent $$$$ on this new wax when all they had to do was correct the paint and use whatever they had.
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Located in Northern Virginia & Surrounding Areas of VA Beach
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07-09-09, 05:03
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#95 (permalink)
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Location: Greenville, SC
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Re: wasted money. rant
I will toss this out there for food for thought.... But IMHO I think the only place any pro should invest any sort of real money would be their compound/Polish products. Everything else can be done just as good with OTC as they can be done with High dollar name brand stuff.
APC is APC and can and will clean just about anything out there. They all work roughly the same with very little difference between most brands out there.
Glass cleaner is Glass cleaner and it's 99% about the technique behind the how to use it rather than the product itself.
Wax is wax and I don't care what anyone else says about it. Of course there's a line of quality I wouldn't cross. But once you reach that line and get a good quality wax they are all about the same in the end.
Shine is shine... You can basically choose between Water based (Hyper dressing) or Silicone based... (Old school and many OTC's)
The only thing I would really invest cash for product and anything I've personally seen make a difference is the compound/polish... Some fill, some don't (as much) Some work with a pass or two others take many passes and still don't work as well. Some work great on Soft clears others really are made for Hard Clears. And every combo can be different. What worked perfect yesterday might not do jack crap today. So this is where you need to do some research and invest your time and money.
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07-09-09, 05:22
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#96 (permalink)
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Registered User
duke4ever is offline
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NYC/PA
Posts: 169
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Re: wasted money. rant
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakerooni
I will toss this out there for food for thought.... But IMHO I think the only place any pro should invest any sort of real money would be their compound/Polish products. Everything else can be done just as good with OTC as they can be done with High dollar name brand stuff.
APC is APC and can and will clean just about anything out there. They all work roughly the same with very little difference between most brands out there.
Glass cleaner is Glass cleaner and it's 99% about the technique behind the how to use it rather than the product itself.
Wax is wax and I don't care what anyone else says about it. Of course there's a line of quality I wouldn't cross. But once you reach that line and get a good quality wax they are all about the same in the end.
Shine is shine... You can basically choose between Water based (Hyper dressing) or Silicone based... (Old school and many OTC's)
The only thing I would really invest cash for product and anything I've personally seen make a difference is the compound/polish... Some fill, some don't (as much) Some work with a pass or two others take many passes and still don't work as well. Some work great on Soft clears others really are made for Hard Clears. And every combo can be different. What worked perfect yesterday might not do jack crap today. So this is where you need to do some research and invest your time and money.
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I pretty much agree with this. Everytime someone brings up the glass cleaning thing, I am one of the first to always just say windex or cheap blue stuff. I really don't see the point in $50 a gallon glass cleaners.
The only thing I'll say about the APC's is that, I think you should probably have at least 2 different APCs only because, some might be much stronger than you want for a certain material. For example, I use orange blast degreaser for engine/wheel wells etc... but diluted Simple Green for things like interior plastic etc...
And both are really cheap! The orange blast even worked great for cleaning rubber mats after a bad winter 
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