wasted money. rant - Page 2

grungy · 06-26-09, 08:19

LOL.. Barry just calls it as he sees it and I'm better off because of his and other's honesty. Where's Jesse tonight??

bufferbarry · 06-26-09, 08:26

if your talking jesse from apollo detailing i would love to see his comments on this to. i think we should make this a lets get real thread and have an honest point to pruducts.

AGAuto · 06-26-09, 08:26

barry -- I use some ardex products also because their store is about 10 minutes from me, but I'm not sure how to properly dilute new wave. Could you post what dilutions you use for interior, engine, etc? Currently I just use it for the tires at full strength, but I would like to be able to use it for more..thanks for any info you share

bufferbarry · 06-26-09, 08:32

first off always dilute new wave 50/50 on motors and tires and undercarriage. tires and door jams i like to go 4 to 1 and for interiors 10 to 1 anything else i can help you with let me know.

grungy · 06-26-09, 08:56

Barry - yes Jesse from Hungary. I'd also like inputs from Scottwax, Autoconcierge, JoshVette and some other high-end folks like yourself.

GS4_Fiend · 06-26-09, 10:08

I bought a whole gallon of Optimum Power Clean; and now I read this. =\

MotorCity · 06-26-09, 11:09

degreasers and I are good friends

mmarmarou · 06-26-09, 11:15

It seems like some of the community here is moving toward this already using ONR as a wash, a QD, and a clay lube.

Legacy99 · 06-26-09, 11:23

Purple Power, OTC, cheap and it works. Simple Green, some don't like the smell, but it also works.

salty · 06-27-09, 03:12

I totally agree Barry. We are being charged for water.

Glass cleaner is the biggest rip off. Usually 95% water and most still don't clean well, eg Windex.
Having problems with windows? Try this simple solution. Water wet a MF and wring it out. Lightly mist the cloth with a degreaser or ONR and scrub the window. Remove with a lint free MF or paper towel (Bounty). Rub until water is gone. Also a lot safer than breathing in chemicals.

My dilution rates of degreaser are 4:1 engine, 25:1 interior-carpet spotting.

Carpet pretreat 40:1, extractor 120:1.

bufferbarry · 06-27-09, 03:52

as i wrote this im not trying to confuse people, because im on who will buy nicer chemicals as needed. i can't use chemicals with fillers for polishing, but we as a consumer haver to draw a fine line and i would love to show the tricks of using certain chemicals in other ways. I was on detailers domain page here is http://www.detailersdomain.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=02

Product Details
P21S Total Auto Wash All Purpose Degreaser
1000ml
P21S Auto Wash gets the dirt and grime out of rocker panels, engines, and other hard to reach places. This formula is great for removing diesel soot and other tough stains that ordinary car wash products just can't seem to cut.

P21S detergent formula, plus the addition of a powerful citrus solvent add up to unmatched cleaning power.

Helpful hints on engine cleaning:
Engine washing Dust and water splashes build up over time, but do not damage the engine. The time for engine washing is after the winter, when water and road salt have splashed up and left a white deposit.

The best place to clean the engine is at a commercial self-service car wash; this ensures that cleaning chemicals and (for older cars) rinsed-off oil do not get into groundwater. Aggressive products such as acid-containing cold cleaners should not be used to loosen dirt, however, since they can attack electrical equipment and plastics. Water-soluble engine cleaners are more suitable.

How to Clean your Engine
1. Spray the degreaser evenly onto cool, dry surfaces and let stand for three minutes.
2. Carefully remove oil, soot and other deposits using a Swissvax Detail Brush (if you use any other brush, make sure the brush head has no sharp metal edges), reapplying degreaser cleaner occasionally.
3. Spray with plenty of clean water to rinse.
4. Dry the engine with compressed air (if available) or old towels.
5. Dress with your favorite dressing, Swissvax Pneu, Einszett Rubber /Vinyl Care, Adam's VRT

now everything is right off there page. now your paying 17.95 plus tax and shipping for a bottle of citrus based degreaser? lol now this is a spray bottle full. now you figure when its all said and done your looking at $25.00 for a total sale. now someone recomended purprle power which is availble for 13.00 at you local advance auto parts for 2.5 gallons. now lhere is how learning how to do this first off your ganna have to dilute this stuff 50/50 right off the start beacuse of how strong it can be. so now you have 5 gallons for $13.00 dollars. thats less then $3 dollars a gallon. now once you break it down 50/50 again which will make a 4 to 1 bottle for tires and door jambs. and 10 to one for interior use like carpets vinyl and other stuff. now you eliminated a lot of chemicals. in your arsenal, and i can be certain that your cost will be cheaper.

im not trying to bash on detailers domain there were just an example company with that x product. im just trying to show you guys how to save on some cash and not fall into some marketing hype. now this is just my 2 cents.

WhiffySpark · 06-27-09, 04:29

Simple green will cloud clear coat.

I don't disagree with you

It really depends on what you're trying to clean, too.