Japanese Paint Sealant Advice

[dazzerjp]

Originally Posted by percynjpn

Wow, thanks for explaining that to me; now the haze has lifted and it all makes sense!

(I was being condescending this time)

no, you were being sarcastic. Paragraphs greatly help in the scanning of text as well as clearing defining topics...

http://www.autopia.org/forum/detaili...tml#post900027

Back to the topic ...

Whilst, undoubtedly, there are charlatans in the business of glass coating services, there are also those to who's product do offer a good 1 -2 year year protection.

The point of these posts is never to insult or cross swords, but rather to decrypt the masses of true and untrue marketing information about these new products.

I make no claim to be the font of all knowledge regarding this, but with the help of other forum members, the hope is to understand what can and cannot be achieved with thses glass coatings. And to also understand the best application process and product longevity.

[TortoiseAWD]

Ahem.



Everyone play nice, now; there's no need for this to get personal.

Tort
(moderator)

[qwertydude]

All I ask is for proof, I'm avoiding personal attacks but it seems anyone skeptical of these coatings automatically incurrs the wrath of the supporters of the product. That in itself is a sign that you should be skeptical. If someone out there really is offering such a fantabulous paint protection system is there any way I can get my hands on it? I can pay paypal. I just don't like that these coatings are being called "glass" so often when it's obvious that a glass coating is impossible. Nobody credible calls waxes anything other than waxes. Glass here is a misnomer and that is often the tactics of a snake oil salesman. Just remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. In this case if anyone can tell me what is so special about the coating, ingredients, process or something tangible. Or else I'm going to have to assume snake oil with a voodoo master shaking his stick over your car promising protection from the bad juju. I'll apply it myself following all proper procedures and leave it on my hood to see how it goes and will report back a completely unbiased review whether good or bad.

If it's as good as it is I'll be a convert much like how I discovered Collinite. And I've never seen anyone start flame wars over the protection it offers, it's real, tangible, and easily available. There's proof all over the internets. Which is why I'm skeptical because theses "glass" coatings are like unicorns, I've never seen any local paint shops, detailers, or show car collectors use these. The only ones I've seen offer these is car dealerships and we already know that's a scam. I live in Southern California it's, like the show car capital of the world.

I was weary of Collinite at first mostly because it is an inexpensive wax in just about the plainest bottles and tins ever. It never caught my eye, untill hearing nothing but universal praise for it. These "coatings" have a lot to live up to since Collinite is already so good for so cheap. The bottom line is is it worth as much money as you think or do you have to convince yourself it's that much better because of the money you paid. Kinda like Zymols ultra premium Vintage Glaze, a $2,184 wax. But at least there you've got a lifetime supply which is technically a better deal than $1000 for 1-2 years of protection. Hell if I detailed profesionally I'd get this wax just so I can claim to use the best, would be good for business right? They also make a $30,000 wax free refills and it comes in an awesome looking crystal pyramid, how cool is that?

[Bence]

qwertydude, I think these are pretty heavyweight contributions (especially with 16 posts as grand total), but I mean... cleaner wax and Collinite as weapons against a coating? Wow...

I'm using Collinite waxes too (885 & 845) so I know what they are capable of, but I still *think* that they are quite dissimilar.

BTW, what happened to dazzerjp's post?

[porta]

Collinite 476 is by far the best lsp I have found via Autopia. All the others disapointed me and that includes Z2, FMJ, UPP, M-seal, opti-seal.

But Collinite 476 is not even close when it comes to the durability against these coatings. But Collinite is so much more cheaper then these coatings. IE the coating is not for everbody and special not for those who love to take care of their cars, like regular autopian does.

[qwertydude]

Don't count me out just because I'm new to a forum. 10,000 bad postings don't make a person knowledgeable. And if I were to open up a discussion as to the merits of these coatings whether that determination proves to be positive or negative I believe I'd have made a better contribution than 1000 flame posts that are on either side of the argument.

I recently joined a motorcycle forum too and got bashed for being a newbie a while ago but because I took a rational and scientific approach to things I've solved motorcycle shifting issues and even improved the city gas mileage of the bike from 70 to as high as 102 mpg. It's on rebel250.com Whereas on the forum before they were just following what the manual said I took the carburetor of the motorcycle apart tracked down the circuit that wasted gas and corrected it with no ill effects of the bike. Nowhere in any manual does it ever say that because the bike already gets good gas mileage, I just happened to improve on it. If anyone owns a rebel 250 I'd be glad to tell you what simple modifications are required.

Just remember that I am not taking any sides in this issue but simply asking for evidence of the superiority of the product. So can anyone here stateside get me a bottle of authentic Japanese whizbang glass coating?

[Bence]

Get in contact with Rob Earle of Gtechniq @ DW (username Loboil). He will give you some in-depth explanation - and you won't have to bother with translation, interpretation, etc.

BTW Google & Co are still our friends when we do our researches.