need some advice, brand new paint job - Page 2

RZJZA80 · 06-13-08, 10:15

My car is a 1997 Toyota Supra Turbo Anniversary Edition. I work at Autobanh Motorsports in Houston, so i work on Supra everyday, we specialize in them. I stripped down the car myself and will be building again myself, which I can't to do for obvious reasons.

Just to be clear, the consensus is to wait at least 30 days, while just washing it with a good car shampoo? Maybe even a little carnauba wax? What shampoo and wax would you guys recommend for a new paint job like this? I noticed most products are to restore paint but what do you do to keep paint looking brand new? I bought tons of micro fiber towels and a micro fiber wash mitt, but I'm clueless on waxing and polishing. I appreciate all your input!

the other pc · 06-13-08, 12:45

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Originally Posted by DennisH

I mention to the paint judge (which worked for a major auto paint manufacture as a trouble shooter and lab rat over 30 years) at a large national car show about the outgassing of fresh paint and using products that prevents the outgassing. After he quite laughing and told me that I spend to much time on the internet he explained that if paint can out gas though 100 to 200 microns of clear coat then layer of sealant or wax or sealant that isn’t even measureable by a paint gauge will not stop the process. What he did state is that the last micron of paint is the last cure and due to the outgassing will be the softest for the longest time. He said what you don’t want use is any product that has chemical reaction with the surface of the paint and chemically attachs to the surface of the paint because it could penetrate the last micro of the surface and chemically mix and change the properties of the paint.....

Now that actually makes sense. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by RZJZA80

...Just to be clear, the consensus is to wait at least 30 days, ...

The “consensus” is irrelevant. The paint calls the shots, not the crowd.

If you want to put your faith in a random mob; It’s your paint, your call. If you want to follow the advice of the people who designed, developed and manufactured your paint (not to mention oversee quality control and track life cycle performance); you’ll find out what the manufacturer recommends.

PC.

RZJZA80 · 06-13-08, 02:28

OK fair enough. However, I have to wash the car, so what car wash/shampoo is recommended to keep it shiny and clean until i can start waxing it?

drew.haynes · 06-13-08, 03:41

I'd just use somethin OTC like Meg's Gold Class

Eliot Ness · 06-13-08, 05:43

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Originally Posted by RZJZA80

OK fair enough. However, I have to wash the car, so what car wash/shampoo is recommended to keep it shiny and clean until i can start waxing it?

Just use a quality car wash shampoo and for some protection use the Meg's #5 glaze I mentioned in an earlier post. That glaze will offer a little protection while still allowing the paint to cure.

Raz5219 · 06-13-08, 07:39

I would wait around 2 months before putting any type of wax or sealant on it. Just in case.
Nice car btw, looks like you have a nice project going!

Accumulator · 06-14-08, 07:42

RZJZA80- Very, very nice

I sorta like the Meguiar's #62 and #00 shampoos (if you're not gonna use my fave, which is Griot's), but plenty of people like the Gold Class.

And yeah, the Meg's #5 New Car Glaze is great for this...it's so user-friendly that you won't mind applying it after every wash. And it *does* provide a little protection and some gloss/slickness/beading during the outgassing process. I've been using #5 on repaints for over 30 years and I still love the stuff.

Just avoid the waxes/etc. for three-four months or so and then see if you can still smell any "paint odor" after it's in the sun or in a closed/hot shop. I never wax/etc. until I can't smell the paint, even if that means longer than the receommended 120 days. I've been waiting five months recently, even though the paint has been baked.

RZJZA80 · 06-14-08, 08:02

nice, thanks for the info guys. Silly question but, I can't wash my car TOO much can I?

Also what wax and polish and whatever else would be best for the type of paint job I have and the pearl color (once I can use them of course)? I noticed some waxes and polished mention that they would be great for black and red cars, or it says dark or light cars, but my car isn't any of those so what do I use? I want to order everything at one time and not just buy the car shampoo, thanks!

Accumulator · 06-14-08, 08:14

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Originally Posted by RZJZA80

nice, thanks for the info guys. Silly question but, I can't wash my car TOO much can I?

Also what wax and polish and whatever else would be best for the type of paint job I have and the pearl color (once I can use them of course)? I noticed some waxes and polished mention that they would be great for black and red cars, or it says dark or light cars, but my car isn't any of those so what do I use? I want to order everything at one time and not just buy the car shampoo, thanks!

No worries about how often you wash, but washing without marring the paint is a lot easier said than done

You probably won't need much of a polish if you're careful when you wash (what with the new paint), so I'd recommend 1Z Metallic Polish with Wax. I'd top it with Collinite brand wax, but others like more exotic stuff

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RZJZA80 · 06-14-08, 08:21

Coming from a performance background, that's one thing I don't like about detailing, nobody seems to agree on the right way to do things or the right products for any given situation HAHA. In the performance world, you can solidly say this part makes more power than that part.

Accumulator · 06-14-08, 08:25

RZJZA80- Yeah, roger that. With the detailing, a lot of it is subjective...different people like/value different looks/characteristics.

The 1Z line of stuff *is* as easy to use as anything you'll find though, and Collinite brand waxes are extremely durable. I can't imagine anybody arguing those opinions

RZJZA80 · 06-14-08, 05:13

am I ok with a micro fiber wash mitt to wash the car and just some normal micro fiber towels to dry or a certain type of towel to dry?