Do you like Zaino ???? - Page 3

Got_Leather · 05-13-08, 09:28

you dont have to use the ZFX accelarator though do you?

Macruz19 · 05-14-08, 03:05

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Originally Posted by Got_Leather

you dont have to use the ZFX accelarator though do you?

No you don't. I just use one coat of either Z-2 or Z-5. Looks as good as 100 coats of Zaino.

If you have Z-AIO there's no need for ZFX, and you can do a coat of either Z-2/, Z-5, or Z-CS.

I use ZFX just to use it up before it "expires".

Holden_C04 · 05-14-08, 07:05

I don't see what all the hype is about. I'm a Klasse user. Klasse costs less and has been around far longer, the formula only changed to accommodate new environmental laws. That's impressive.

To be fair, I haven't used Zaino. So I guess you can take what I say with a grain of salt.

Rob Tomlin · 05-14-08, 07:09

Long time Zaino user here (going back to the late 90's). I still think it is a good product, but I have moved on to other sealants that, in my opinion, outperform the Z.

I do give Zaino a lot of credit though, as I personally believe that they helped create the "sealant revolution" for lack of a better term.

Mindflux · 05-14-08, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Holden_C04

I don't see what all the hype is about. I'm a Klasse user. Klasse costs less and has been around far longer, the formula only changed to accommodate new environmental laws. That's impressive.

To be fair, I haven't used Zaino. So I guess you can take what I say with a grain of salt.

The amount of Zaino I can use on my car, somewhere in the ballpark of 2.5-3 coats per ounce (when using ZFX) is astonishing. It easily makes up for the "cost" by bringing the cost per layer/application down combined with the amount of time saved by being able to do 3 coats a day (if that's what you want to do).

FWIW a 16.9 oz bottle of Klasse SG runs $20.99 on Autopia's store. That's $1.24/oz. Zaino is $14.95 for 8oz or 1.86/oz.

If you add ZFX into the cost that's 19.95 for 2ml, which is 120-140 drops according to Zaino. 3-4 drops go in an ounce of polish. 20/130(avg) = 15c per 'drop'. So add 60 cents for ZFX.

If you can get 3 layers of Klasse SG out of an ounce, by all means it's 'less expensive'. Otherwise I think it's the other way around.

Klasse was my first 'real' sealant I ever used, back in 2000. I did not have good luck with it.

Mindflux · 05-14-08, 07:15

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

Long time Zaino user here (going back to the late 90's). I still think it is a good product, but I have moved on to other sealants that, in my opinion, outperform the Z.

I do give Zaino a lot of credit though, as I personally believe that they helped create the "sealant revolution" for lack of a better term.

What are you using now, just out of curiosity?

Holden_C04 · 05-14-08, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Mindflux

The amount of Zaino I can use on my car, somewhere in the ballpark of 2.5-3 coats per ounce (when using ZFX) is astonishing. It easily makes up for the "cost" by bringing the cost per layer/application down combined with the amount of time saved by being able to do 3 coats a day (if that's what you want to do).

FWIW a 16.9 oz bottle of Klasse SG runs $20.99 on Autopia's store. That's $1.24/oz. Zaino is $14.95 for 8oz or 1.86/oz.

If you add ZFX into the cost that's 19.95 for 2ml, which is 120-140 drops according to Zaino. 3-4 drops go in an ounce of polish. 20/130(avg) = 15c per 'drop'. So add 60 cents for ZFX.

If you can get 3 layers of Klasse SG out of an ounce, by all means it's 'less expensive'. Otherwise I think it's the other way around.

Klasse was my first 'real' sealant I ever used, back in 2000. I did not have good luck with it.

I have never measured the amount I use but I wouldn't be surprised if you could get 2-3 applications out of 1 oz. I apply it with a black pad on the PC and use very little of the product.

mborner · 05-14-08, 07:38

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Originally Posted by Holden_C04

I have never measured the amount I use but I wouldn't be surprised if you could get 2-3 applications out of 1 oz. I apply it with a black pad on the PC and use very little of the product.

1/2 oz. does my Accord 4 door, the wheels, and all the glass. I've been told I use too much!

TH0001 · 05-14-08, 11:38

I usually get 2-3 coats out of 1/2 OZ (2 on a truck, 3 on a car) of Zaino.

So far in durability testing, nothing has come close to the durabilty of Zaino.

SuperBee364 · 05-14-08, 02:17

Does anyone know when was the last time Zaino had a formulation change? The stuff I have is about two years old. I'm wondering if there's been a formulation change since then.

I have to admit, Zaino is one *very* good looking sealant. It's easy to use, and Zaino's AIO is just amazing. And as you guys have said, the durability is the best around. Having said all that, in my experience, it doesn't provide very good environmental protection (in my part of the country). I know lot's of people say/have said that it's like armor as far as environmental protection, but I'm just not seeing it where I'm at. It also doesn't perform well with touchless washes (but in all fairness, most LSP's don't perform well with touchless washes). If there's been a formulaton change, I'll buy another round of Zaino to give it a shot, cause truth be told, it's really hard to beat it's look. Especially for how easy it is to use. ZAIO followed by two coats of Z2 is pretty darn hard to beat. The only sealant I've had come close is UPGP, but it takes three coats (over three days) to do it. FMJ comes close, too, but it lasts about three weeks.

es350 · 05-14-08, 07:07

I've tried Zaino...and it's good. However, I now use Optimum OS and OCW and like the Optimum products much better for looks and ease of use! I apply an LSP every 2-months so durability is a non-issue.

Mindflux · 05-14-08, 07:10

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Originally Posted by SuperBee364

Does anyone know when was the last time Zaino had a formulation change? The stuff I have is about two years old. I'm wondering if there's been a formulation change since then.

I have to admit, Zaino is one *very* good looking sealant. It's easy to use, and Zaino's AIO is just amazing. And as you guys have said, the durability is the best around. Having said all that, in my experience, it doesn't provide very good environmental protection (in my part of the country). I know lot's of people say/have said that it's like armor as far as environmental protection, but I'm just not seeing it where I'm at. It also doesn't perform well with touchless washes (but in all fairness, most LSP's don't perform well with touchless washes). If there's been a formulaton change, I'll buy another round of Zaino to give it a shot, cause truth be told, it's really hard to beat it's look. Especially for how easy it is to use. ZAIO followed by two coats of Z2 is pretty darn hard to beat. The only sealant I've had come close is UPGP, but it takes three coats (over three days) to do it. FMJ comes close, too, but it lasts about three weeks.

Pro hasn't changed recently AFAIK.

I personally need to order some ZFX, I did ZAIO and Z5P on my car two weekends ago and found myself really wishing I could have put down two more layers of Z2P or Z5P.