I just ordered Vintage - Page 7

Accumulator · 09-14-07, 11:00

MDRX8- Sorry to hear about your shoulder, hope it heals up soon. That's how I got hooked on machine waxing (both on and off)...it was the only way I could do it for a while.

Interesting that it's working out OK for you with the Vintage.

MDRX8 · 09-14-07, 12:12

Thanks, I just can not see how it benefits you to apply by hand. As you use the PC or UDM you can clearly see the nuba wax (even that high of a percent) "melts" on to the cars finish. And it takes a while for the Vintage to dry completely. I apply to the whole car the buff after with no problems.

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

MDRX8- Sorry to hear about your shoulder, hope it heals up soon. That's how I got hooked on machine waxing (both on and off)...it was the only way I could do it for a while.

Interesting that it's working out OK for you with the Vintage.

Dylan@Adams · 09-14-07, 12:21

Forgive me for asking if its already been discussed before, but honestly, whats to keep a Vintage owner from portioning out the product to friends, getting a refill, and dividing it up again?? I mean other than the obvious moral issues couldn't someone turn a pretty healthy profit selling off portions of their Vintage??

MDRX8 · 09-14-07, 01:24

I guess you could. But Zymol keeps tracks of refills. But I look at it this way, when I bought it I knew part of the deal was for my use only. In a way I accepted a verbal contract not to give anyone my serial #'rd Vintage. It would be dishonest and thats not my style. JMHO...

Dylan@Adams · 09-14-07, 02:43

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Originally Posted by MDRX8

I guess you could. But Zymol keeps tracks of refills. But I look at it this way, when I bought it I knew part of the deal was for my use only. In a way I accepted a verbal contract not to give anyone my serial #'rd Vintage. It would be dishonest and thats not my style. JMHO...

Definitely would be some back handed stuff for sure... and something I wouldn't participate in. I'm just shocked all they have is a verbal agreement. With as many dishonest people as there are in the world you'd think someone somewhere would already be doing this... and if they were how could Zymol prove anything??

DieselMDX · 09-14-07, 03:36

if i buy a tub i will give out sample's.

DieselMDX · 09-14-07, 03:37

o yeah pics! :-)

Accumulator · 09-14-07, 04:26

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Originally Posted by Dylan06SS

Forgive me for asking if its already been discussed before, but honestly, whats to keep a Vintage owner from ..[sharing the stuff]...

Noting that if somebody distributed samples *with the intention of finding more Vintage customers* I'd consider that different; I think it's stupid that people can't sample the product the way they once could....other than that:

It might be naive of me, but I like to think that the sort of people who spend $1800 on a wax are above doing underhanded things for a minimal ROI.

Heh heh, as blackmarket enterprises go, I dunno if reselling Vintage would really be very profitable

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Originally Posted by MDRX8

..I just can not see how it benefits you to apply by hand. As you use the PC or UDM you can clearly see the nuba wax (even that high of a percent) "melts" on to the cars finish.

Noting that my knowledge/interest in this topic is purely hypothetical/academic at this point.... the heat is supposedly required to melt the hard carnauba right?

Even if it melts a moment after contact with the paint (takes a second for the machine to heat it up), that initial pre-melt contact might cause micromarring, at least on some paints.

Heh heh, I sure hope it *can* be applied by machine, but my Jag's lacquer isn't something I'm gonna experiment on, and it *is* pretty soft. I can see heating up the pads or otherwise getting around the issue though.

lbls1 · 09-14-07, 07:33

If the wax works via a buffing machine, then ok (I still feel that it is not a correct method of applying an EGZ!). Wax is NOT supposed to be worked in or scoured into the paint. Wax is supposed to glide softly over the prepped paint, and very carefully buffed off. The zymols have been well known to have caused some streaking or micromarring if they have been incorrectly applied.

As long as no marks in the surface have been produced, then use the method that works. Any type of streaking or marring from a wax application (by hand or machine) is an unacceptable method IMO, so take care that NO marks are being produced.

Edit: Hope your shoulder gets better.

Heh Heh: Accumulator giving zymol pointers...........what is the world coming to?????

lbls1 · 09-14-07, 07:44

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Originally Posted by Dylan06SS

Forgive me for asking if its already been discussed before, but honestly, whats to keep a Vintage owner from portioning out the product to friends, getting a refill, and dividing it up again?? I mean other than the obvious moral issues couldn't someone turn a pretty healthy profit selling off portions of their Vintage??

Its been touched on lightly. It can present a very sticky situation on certain boards, and it can also lead to misunderstandings between parties. A venture into a big purchase like Vintage should be an agreement made between parties preferrably before the purchase, so that everyone knows the limitations of the deal. Sorry for paraphrasing, but Jonnycomelately's asking for portions will leave someone open for many more requests for the "stuff." If you do for one, then there's not a really good reason for denying others. My friend SuperBee put his position so...so well........

"I'm not givin', sellin', or sending any portion of Vintage to anyone, and I'm sorry." (It went something like that). It really isn't anyone's fault; It is really the situation set up by Zymol. Why should such an excellent product be sooo expensive and so out of reach to many??? I empathize with others, but its just ( I've found) a very difficult situation to be in.

SuperBee364 · 09-15-07, 12:48

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Originally Posted by calgarydetail

Well folks i did it. i gave into my brother telling me to stop complaing... i bought zymol vintage... omg im shaking right now.... i ordered it from ocd garage.. i know some ppl have had issues but I never had.... omg I dont know what to say... im gonna get vintage

Yup, I gotta admit, I was shaking too after I ordered mine! Congratulations, man, I hope you enjoy your Vintage as much as I have.

I sure hope you don't have any problems with OCD Garage. I ordered my Vintage straight from zymol.com. Their shipping charges were outrageous, but I wanted to make sure I ordered it straight from the mother ship.

Let's see some pictures!

OK, now that I read your first post, I gotta go back and read the first eight pages of the thread....

SuperBee364 · 09-15-07, 12:49

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Originally Posted by Ralliart16

I'm sure the refill policy isn't "Transferable" LOL

Actually, you can bequeathe the refill rights to an heir. Unbelievable, i know, but it's true.