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Old 07-05-07, 08:49   #1 (permalink)
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CG Citrus wash killed NXT

Washed my daughter's car with my new CG Citrus Wash and it killed the beading of the wax.
Noticed it imediately on the hood. No more beads, just sheeting. Kinda ticked me off cause I just waxed it a month ago and it was beading nicely before the wash.

Used 1/2oz to 2 gal. of the wash. I will say that I washed my car which has FMJ and had no problems, so I suspect it's more the lack of durability of the NXT rather than the wash, I just didn't want to re-wax so soon.

Plan is tonight to wash hers again with the CG at the stripping rate and re-do with FMJ.

Is this a problem with CG on all waxes but not sealants or just the NXT?
 
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Old 07-05-07, 09:31   #2 (permalink)
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

Maybe the Citrus wash left something behind to sheet the water off. Some washes do that...it's actually a good function.

Try lightly dry-buffing the paint with a soft MF. If that makes no difference, try QDing the finish before you do something more drastic.
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Old 07-05-07, 09:52   #3 (permalink)
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

I used CG citrus wash on cars that are going to be polished, clayed, paint cleansed, etc because it is a strong wash. I don't use it for maintainence washes.
Great product.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

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Maybe the Citrus wash left something behind to sheet the water off. Some washes do that...it's actually a good function.

Try lightly dry-buffing the paint with a soft MF. If that makes no difference, try QDing the finish before you do something more drastic.
I'll try this. Good thought.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

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My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
I think I have some Finishing Touch I could try.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

Very well said joyriiide... I had never thought about it like that..
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

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Washed my daughter's car with my new CG Citrus Wash and it killed the beading of the wax.
Noticed it imediately on the hood. No more beads, just sheeting. Kinda ticked me off cause I just waxed it a month ago and it was beading nicely before the wash.

Used 1/2oz to 2 gal. of the wash. I will say that I washed my car which has FMJ and had no problems, so I suspect it's more the lack of durability of the NXT rather than the wash, I just didn't want to re-wax so soon.

Plan is tonight to wash hers again with the CG at the stripping rate and re-do with FMJ.

Is this a problem with CG on all waxes but not sealants or just the NXT?
Thanks for the head's up on NXT. I was considering getting some since I read it had polymers in it. I've had no durability problems with Klasse SG w/ Pinnacle souveran over it.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

agreed, cg's wash n gloss is some amazing stuff! thanks for the comparison though.
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

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My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
i agree. i use NXT on my 03 avalanche. garage kept, never been driven in rain. after a few washes over 2-3 month time period (this car has 13,000 miles and is going on 4years old) i notice the same. although the "real beading" is gone it is obvious that it is still protecting. a light QD and the POP is back along with the beading. there is no reason to continually "wax" this vehicle. it's protected, i know!
 
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Re: CG Citrus wash killed NXT

Haven't used Citrus wash but it sounds like a powerful soap. Maybe its too acidic and took some of the wax off?
 
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i agree. i use NXT on my 03 avalanche. garage kept, never been driven in rain. after a few washes over 2-3 month time period (this car has 13,000 miles and is going on 4years old) i notice the same. although the "real beading" is gone it is obvious that it is still protecting. a light QD and the POP is back along with the beading. there is no reason to continually "wax" this vehicle. it's protected, i know!
Its protected from what? You dont let it out lol
 
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