Lets try this again, $30 foam gun!

[tom p.]

This might be a dopey question, but I'd like to pose it. Do both foam guns (Gilmour and E-ZAll) drain down the quart container so it's empty - OR - do they simply feed a small amount of water into the container so it appears full?

A minor problem with my $10 soap sprayer from Lowe's is that it keeps the 4 oz reservoir filled with water. It's never emptied. So, at the end, I can't really gage how much shampoo I've actually used as the small plastic reservoir is still filled with a colored mixture of some unknown dilution.

Thanks.

[Brandon1]

EZ all feeds a small amount of water so it appears full.

[Jester7677]

I have a cheap foam gun and lacking anything more than ON or OFF for the soap, but it does have an adjustable nozel for spray pattern. I can adjust the volume coming from the soap container by feel, but would preferr the ratio settings. Gilmour does this I believe with hard settings.

I'd love to hear of another gun that has settings, and allows pure water with hard pressure spray if needed, that did not cost what the Gilmour does.

[tom p.]

Jester, do you have the $10 gun from Lowe's?

[Accumulator]

Originally Posted by tom p.

This might be a dopey question, but I'd like to pose it. Do both foam guns (Gilmour and E-ZAll) drain down the quart container so it's empty - OR - do they simply feed a small amount of water into the container so it appears full?

My Gilmours run down to *empty*, they don't feed water into the tank.

[tom p.]

Originally Posted by Accumulator

My Gilmours run down to *empty*, they don't feed water into the tank.

Excellent, thanks for clarifying. That just expanded my comfort zone... ... you know exactly how much soap you've used. (That's kind of an issue for me.)

[itb76]

Just got mine yesterday. So far I really like it (even though it's $40 with the shipping), but I was confused as to how to mix soap for it. At first I tried a weak mixture of Megs NXT wash...

Originally Posted by Accumulator

I mix ~4-5 ounces of Shampoo to a gallon jug (the rest water) and fill the foamgun from that...

This just sprayed water with a couple bubbles in it--this would not do. I dumped some water, added more NXT, and shook well. It seemed like a 50/50 mixture. This produced a lot more foam, though still not quite like the Rav4 has on it.

Originally Posted by tom p.

[b]This might be a dopey question, but I'd like to pose it. Do both foam guns (Gilmour and E-ZAll) drain down the quart container so it's empty - OR - do they simply feed a small amount of water into the container so it appears full?

I thought it was draining the quart, though there was plenty left over for another wash or two. I'll keep my eye on this.

Originally Posted by tom p.

complete loss of slickness as you move from panel to panel. It can even be felt when wiping down with a WW post-washing phase.

I will say washing this way produced the slickest feeling panels I've experienced, at least during the wash itself. Whether or not I really am, I feel like I'm inducing less marring this way. With some practice I hope to get wash time equal to an ONR wash. I think my daughter will appreciate that I'm washing the cars with a horse sprayer.

[Accumulator]

Originally Posted by itb76

Just got mine yesterday. So far I really like it (even though it's $40 with the shipping), but I was confused as to how to mix soap for it. At first I tried a weak mixture of Megs NXT wash...


This just sprayed water with a couple bubbles in it--this would not do. I dumped some water, added more NXT, and shook well. It seemed like a 50/50 mixture. This produced a lot more foam, though still not quite like the Rav4 has on it...

Foamgun techniques differ, so maybe what I'm after isn't what *you're* after. I don't *want* thick, clingy foam for most jobs, so I guess it's not surprising that you ended up liking a much stronger mix. I did find your description of the weaker mix interesting though, so thanks for posting it.

I always wonder if my boosted water pressure and conditioned/softened water make for a significant difference

Given that you had solution left over, whereas I'll sometimes refill to finish *one* job, it sounds like we're approaching this from very different angles, which I'm sure *NOT* criticizing Gotta find what works for *you*.

[Jester7677]

Originally Posted by tom p.

Jester, do you have the $10 gun from Lowe's?

While it did not come in that package, yes, appears to be the same. You see those ribs on the top knob? I back it off one rib from full. Allows me to wash the entire using 2 oz. I do the following...

Rinse the car.
Foam/Soap up the tops, wash, rinse.
Foam/Soap up a side, wash, rinse.
Foam/Soap up the other side, wash, rinse.
Foam/Soap up a Rear bumper, wash, rinse.
Foam/Soap up a Front bumper, wash, rinse.
Foam/Soap two wheels, wash, rinse.

I do this because I think that the soap sitting on the car longer than this is too long and will start effecting your LSP.

My 2 cents.

[Balthazarr]

Jester, that multi-nozzel looks just like the Carrand ones I bought from Autozone.
It doesn't have the bottle or same gun attachment bc mine are simply hose nozzles.

Carrand sent me a new one because the shutoff valve inside would not shut the flow off after a half-dozen uses.
They re-designed (I should say the Chinese re-designed) and placed a metal valve to replace the plastic one.

[Jester7677]

Originally Posted by Balthazarr

Jester, that multi-nozzel looks just like the Carrand ones I bought from Autozone.
It doesn't have the bottle or same gun attachment bc mine are simply hose nozzles.

Carrand sent me a new one because the shutoff valve inside would not shut the flow off after a half-dozen uses.
They re-designed (I should say the Chinese re-designed) and placed a metal valve to replace the plastic one.

Mine looks just like the one above. Works pretty well, just wish it had a hair more water pressure.

[itb76]

Originally Posted by Accumulator

I always wonder if my boosted water pressure and conditioned/softened water make for a significant difference

My water is quite hard; this must affect the foam to some degree.

Originally Posted by Accumulator

Gotta find what works for *you*.

Within a few weeks I hope to!