Is ONR really the way to go?

[SuperBee364]

I've seen that alot of the pros here use ONR, and that should be enough to convince me that the stuff is safe, but...

There just seems to be something really off here... You have a dirty vehicle. You know, dirty... dirt, the stuff that's really hard and loves to scratch the bejesus out of our clears and paints. And to remove this dirt you're just gonna soak an MF mitt in some magic juice in a bucket of water, then get after that dirt (think of the largest abrasives to never make it into a compound) with it?? Oh man, I just cringe at the thought. You know how the abrasives in our favorite compounds and polishes are "lubricated for extra working time"? That's the thought that comes to mind.... here we have a raw abrasive. Dry. Sitting pretty on our paint/clear coat. We call it dirt. Then along comes this microfiber mitt, soaked in ONR, which makes it all nice and lubricated. We then smash this mitt against the paint (trapping the abrasive under it), then we lubricate it with ONR (for extra working time) while we take it for a ride on the paint before we deposit it in the bucket of water (if it doesn't get stuck in the mitt), where it runs the potential of hitchhiking along for another ride accross the paint (even grit gaurds only reduce some of this risk). Honestly, it sounds like a cave man's polishing job... "Grog make paint pretty and swirly"

Do the magic lubricators in ONR really lubricate so well that they are able to completely nullify the abrasive qualities of dirt? That seems a feat nothing short of magic!

Don't get me wrong here, I really, really want to trust the stuff enough to use it in the winter time on my cars, but wow, it honestly seems "too good to be true".

As I said, seeing the pros on here using it does help alot, but still.. Is everyone really happy with this stuff??

One of the members here was at my house last week. He brought along some ONR, and generously offered me some. I thanked him for his offer, and said no. I just can't bring myself to use this stuff. To me, it sounds like a Tunnel Wash In A Bottle.

Looking for people's experiences (good and bad) with ONR and ONR type products. I know I'm hanging myself out as flamebait here, but if there's a good winter wash method to be had here (as well as an instruction session from the pros), it's worth getting a bit singed for.

[Joshua312]

My apologies in advance for not giving you a detailed response, but basically the product speaks for itself. It is an amazing product, sounds very scary and it is hard to understand how it actually works so well without creating swirls. But I use ONR often and absolutely love it! I use it in the winter all the time as well as in the summer. In my opinion it cuts down on the amount of time it takes me to wash my car...I can do a quick ONR wash in about 20-30 minutes - that is including dressing tires.

You will not be disappointed.

[Johnnie27]

I was thinking the same thing as the first post. My initial thoughts are, maybe it's ok to use prior to polishing since you're going to be buffing out swirls anyways. Is ONR good for everyday washes without polishing?

J

[Scottwax]

Single bucket method, water/ONR mix changed out halfway through due to the size and extreme filth of the F-205.

[wannafbody]

I'm skeptical of using any rinseless wash on heavy dirt. I think they are great for airborn dust but not IMO for any type of abrasive road dirt.

[Scottwax]

Originally Posted by wannafbody

I'm skeptical of using any rinseless wash on heavy dirt. I think they are great for airborn dust but not IMO for any type of abrasive road dirt.

See my post above yours. That truck hadn't been washed in months. No marring of any kind. Believe me, ONR and QEW have much more safe cleaning power than you think.

[bigfoot]

I used 1 bucket method, and no problems at all!

[SuperBee364]

Wow.. just.... wow...

So is this how you guys are using it?...

Pour an ounce in a gallon or two of water, throw in your MF mitt, pull the MF mitt out of the bucket and get to work?

Seriously thinking about getting some now, and I want to make sure I'm clear on how to use it, cause honestly, this stuff scares me worse than my first rotary session.

[bigfoot]

This is the way I use it:

1-5 Gallon bucket
1 grit guard
4 capfuls on 3 gallons of water
Shmitt
Drying MF's

Same technique as regular wash, going from top to bottom, but without the hose.

[joerockt]

I just started using this after I bought a bottle from Patrick at Excel a few weeks ago. I'm using his method of using a sprayer as opposed to a bucket. I have to say I was skeptical as well, but I concentrated on several dusty/dirty spots. Sprayed on, wiped of and I can say I didnt notice any additional marring. Proceeded with the rest of the car and was done in no time. The only thing I would suggest is to have multiple MF drying towels available, as they will obviously get dirty after several wipes. Also, I found that it can streak, so its probably best to follow up with a QD'er, which I do anyway. Lastly, if your not out in the sun, I found that if you spray it on, and let it sit, it will help loosen up some of the "stuck on" stuff.

Another interesting point is that the water dosent feelslick. I made a concentration of it as a lubricant for claying and I had no problems with the clay ever sticking to the surface. I've pretty much decided to use this as my wash, clay lube and QD'er.

HTH.

[Vintage]

Originally Posted by SuperBee364

Wow.. just.... wow...

So is this how you guys are using it?...

Pour an ounce in a gallon or two of water, throw in your MF mitt, pull the MF mitt out of the bucket and get to work?

Seriously thinking about getting some now, and I want to make sure I'm clear on how to use it, cause honestly, this stuff scares me worse than my first rotary session.

How about just using it as regular wash soap and then rinsing with a hose if the one bucket method is scary?

[joshtpa]

I guess you could, but I dont think you are going to get any where close to the same results. It is not a car shampoo.