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05-01-07, 06:22
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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You are right....I have been doing months of research on this also and watched and asked the pros which pads they use and they all say LC or megs polish pads. LC cutting pad via pc or megs polish pad via rotory. Look at polishedbliss.uk.com, cleanyourcar, and the head users Davekg, cupraclark, wxt51, etc... Those guys get way beyond excellent results with all the menzerna polishes.
Menzerna polishes are a little finicky and with the right pad they will scream gloss. I have been playing a lot with the 106ff, 85rd, 3.01, etc... Also on the rotory anything above the polish pad is overkill.
Good post Justin...I like this one!
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Speaking of which, I just found out that my local paint shop carried some of the meguiar's softbuff 6.5" pads, so I purchased one of the polishing pads and will be using it for this weekend's detail on a subaru forester
The 5" LC CCS danase pads work fine for my car as it has many small angled panels, but for something as large as a forester, I needed a larger pad.
Also looked at the megs burgundy cutting pad. It was softer than I thought it would be, so I think I might be picking one of those up as well if I decide to use powergloss.
Dave
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05-01-07, 07:17
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King of Gloss!
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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Speaking of which, I just found out that my local paint shop carried some of the meguiar's softbuff 6.5" pads, so I purchased one of the polishing pads and will be using it for this weekend's detail on a subaru forester
The 5" LC CCS danase pads work fine for my car as it has many small angled panels, but for something as large as a forester, I needed a larger pad.
Also looked at the megs burgundy cutting pad. It was softer than I thought it would be, so I think I might be picking one of those up as well if I decide to use powergloss.
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Great! Can't wait to see the results. Subarus really shine when correction is done right. I love them. You have the new super IP aka 3.01 from detailersdomain.com right?
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05-01-07, 07:27
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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Great! Can't wait to see the results. Subarus really shine when correction is done right. I love them. You have the new super IP aka 3.01 from detailersdomain.com right?
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I have PO85RD, PO106FF, standard IP which is PO91L and powergloss (POS34A).
Opted not to get the 3.01 after reading the uk forums and talking to Menzerna USA.
Unfortunately the subaru is silver, so it'll be hard to capture any improvments on camera. I think his wife has a dark blue corolla that we might end up practicing on if we finish the forester early
Dave
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05-01-07, 09:06
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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Originally Posted by crew219
I have PO85RD, PO106FF, standard IP which is PO91L and powergloss (POS34A).
Opted not to get the 3.01 after reading the uk forums and talking to Menzerna USA.
Unfortunately the subaru is silver, so it'll be hard to capture any improvments on camera. I think his wife has a dark blue corolla that we might end up practicing on if we finish the forester early
Dave
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What was wrong with the 3.01 IP..I have it and used it on some ruff scratches..and it worked great..and finished out LSP ready with a white CCS pad....I added a drop of OP to it so to extend the work time a bit..no dusting either...it cut fast and left a nice gloss...I did go over the paint with PO85RD after..but the 3.01 did finish out nice ...
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05-01-07, 09:18
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
I just did a 02 Volvo with 3.01 and it took out some nasty scratches easy. I did not even feel the need for a finish polish and went straight to lsp.
The only thing I noticed when it was damp it wanted to hop a little on the rotory, but nothing too bad. I also added a litttle op and it cured it fast. I was way beyond impressed with just using it on a polish pad by rotory at 1500rpm. trick was start at 1000rpm, then to 1500, then flash it off back at 1000rpm. Then bang thick clear gloss lsp ready that was totally swirl free.
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05-01-07, 09:45
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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What was wrong with the 3.01 IP..I have it and used it on some ruff scratches..and it worked great..and finished out LSP ready with a white CCS pad....I added a drop of OP to it so to extend the work time a bit..no dusting either...it cut fast and left a nice gloss...I did go over the paint with PO85RD after..but the 3.01 did finish out nice ...
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Nothing was wrong with it. From what I was reading & what menzerna told me, I would see no real improvment of the 3.01 over standard IP if used properly. The ceramiclear polishes all seem to contain extra lubrication from slightly longer working time, which is simply what 3.01 is. To get the same or similar results, Jeff mentioned that spraying some water on the panel would extend the use of the polish and allow me to properly finish it down. IIRC Dave KG has mentioned this a few times as the "slow cut" method.
Going by menzerna's recommendation, it seems as if powergloss was a better option if I was looking at more cut over standard IP.
I would highly recommend people to give Jeff a call @ menzerna USA. What he has to say about the ceramiclear vs non cermiclear polishes is very enlightening and pretty much supported by what I've been seeing the distributors in europe also mention.
Dave
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05-01-07, 10:31
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
I also find the slow cutting method works perfect and helps it big time.
What it does is it evens out the lubes mainly and the fine polish agents and spreads it evenly over the finish breaking it down perfect. If you work it too fast you will notice lube spotting on the finish. Once spread evenly you can step up the speed corecting the surface producing great gloss. This method works cause it spreads the polish lube on the panel evenly and allows it to work evenly so there is no pad hop.
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05-01-07, 04:02
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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What was wrong with the 3.01 IP..I have it and used it on some ruff scratches..and it worked great..and finished out LSP ready with a white CCS pad....I added a drop of OP to it so to extend the work time a bit..no dusting either...it cut fast and left a nice gloss...I did go over the paint with PO85RD after..but the 3.01 did finish out nice ...
Al
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OP being what?
Change
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05-01-07, 04:23
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
optimum polish.
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05-03-07, 08:20
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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Originally Posted by rydawg
I just did a 02 Volvo with 3.01 and it took out some nasty scratches easy. I did not even feel the need for a finish polish and went straight to lsp.
The only thing I noticed when it was damp it wanted to hop a little on the rotory, but nothing too bad. I also added a litttle op and it cured it fast. I was way beyond impressed with just using it on a polish pad by rotory at 1500rpm. trick was start at 1000rpm, then to 1500, then flash it off back at 1000rpm. Then bang thick clear gloss lsp ready that was totally swirl free.
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Ryan, I am in DC right now and tomorrow will I walk down to either a Fedex or USPS office and ship you a bottle of RD3.02 and some more stuff.
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05-03-07, 09:03
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
Porta, how can I get so lucky???
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05-03-07, 09:42
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Re: Menzerna's New 106FA (pic)
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Ryan, I am in DC right now and tomorrow will I walk down to either a Fedex or USPS office and ship you a bottle of RD3.02 and some more stuff.
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Thanks Marcus! Are you having fun in the US! Wish you were coming to the Boston area and I would have met up with ya. Don't drink to much  Just kidding!
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