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Old 12-30-06, 12:58   #1 (permalink)
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New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

I've never had a black paint job before and want to insure that it looks good for a long time. What's the best products to use?

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Old 12-30-06, 01:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

I would hand wash using a quality wool mitt with a quality wash such as Griots, Mequiars , etc. Make sure and use Microfiber cloths to remove wax/polish. I use Klasse AIO and Pinnacle Souveran/Nattys Blue for protection/looks on my black Suburban.
 
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

The first thing, before any products, is to use good technique to reduce any marring to a minimum. Try this thread: http://autopia.org/forum/hall-fame/3...technique.html
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Old 12-30-06, 01:35   #4 (permalink)
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

What are your objectives for the future? Do you want durability so you won't have to detail as often? Or are you the junkie type who can't resist waxing once a month? Answer that and you will get a better prescription for your paint.
 
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

Best is kind of a tough one..best looks, best durabilty?

Top of my head in my opinion I'd say..

Polish: Menzerna PO106FF/Blackfire SRC Finishing (Optimum, or Menzerna FPII for more budget consciencous)

LSP: Wax - Pinnacle Souveran is the gold standard for black. (Meg's #26, Natty's Blue also good),

LSP: Sealants - don't have quite the pop on black, but some of the better ones would be the always popular Zaino, and I find Meguiar's #21 looks good on black

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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

In my recent past, I've always taken my vehicles to touchless car washes regularly and had them professionally detailed at least once a quarter. This was mostly due to having to travel a lot for work. But now I have more time on my hands and want to do the work myself. I've read a lot about problems with swirls and micro-scratches on black paint and want to avoid repeating other's mistakes.

I'd like to achieve that deep finish look as seen on show cars and am willing to put in the effort it takes to get that result. So I guess that would qualify as a "junkie-in-training".

Also looking for suggestions on steps to take now, since it is only a week old.

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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-p...=sealant+black
 
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

The black trans am is Zaino
 
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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

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In my recent past, I've always taken my vehicles to touchless car washes regularly and had them professionally detailed at least once a quarter... But now I have more time on my hands and want to do the work myself. I've read a lot about problems with swirls and micro-scratches on black paint and want to avoid repeating other's mistakes...
Noting that we all have stuff that we emphasize and stuff that we downplay, I'd concentrate on the wash/dry technique. The best LSP (Last Step Product, i.e., "wax") in the world won't look good over marring and the best polish in the world still isn't something you want to use all the time (or even four times a year). IMO it's better to avoid messing up the paint in the first place so...

Best investment *IMO* is a foamgun and good wash/dry media (and a fair bit of time spent thinking about this stuff ). Washing without inducing marring is usually more difficult than people expect.

Get some good lighting so you can see what's what and avoid surprises when you pull it out of the garage and into the sun (or under parking lot lights at night).

And yeah, Souveran and Meg's #26 look great on black, but the biggest factor in its appearance will be an absence of marring. If you already have some (even after just one week) you'll have to polish it out using something mildly abrasive and there are a zillion choices for that (working by hand? If so I'd recommend polishes from 1Z).

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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

You will get a million different suggestions, but my 0.02 is menzerna polishes and zaino

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Re: New Honda Element with Black paint - best products money can buy?

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You will get a million different suggestions, but my 0.02 is menzerna polishes and zaino

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I agree with Greg. With zaino you have the best of both worlds: a rich deep finish and excellent durability.

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