WTB: Zymol Vintage - Page 5

Vintage · 05-07-07, 07:43

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Originally Posted by MoeMistry

Paul is applying the wax improperly. Not sure why he would tell you to put royale on by applicator. In his videos, he's doing it by hand. Apply Ital by hand.

You're absolutely correct Moe. A few years back I stopped by the Ferrari dealership and was talking with one of the managers. I mentioned that I was using Vintage on mine and he told me his experience of one customer. Customer buys a brand new 328 GTS - his first Ferrari. In his excitement, he buys Ferrari polo shirts, baseball caps, key fobs, coffee mugs, etc. He also buys the Ital eg, hd cleanse, prewax and wax apps. He was instructed to melt the glaze in his hands when applying but he figured he can do a more "thorough" job with a wax app. Guess what? He scratched the crap out of that brand new 328!!! Costed him quite a bit to have them polish and buff it out since he thought rubbing more would get rid of the hazing. Nice going dude.

Zymol is perfect when the instructions are followed. The only way I could see applying eg's with a wax app is if the eg is already melted to liquid form - even so, I'd still be nervous. Use your hands.

MoeMistry · 05-07-07, 09:07

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Originally Posted by BLKSWAN

moe,

how does the ital compare to the concours? i recently purchased some ital on ebay (too good a deal to pass up) and i was just wondering how it compares to concours or the others. also, i do not have a ferrari, which i think it is supposedly designed for, but i have an 07 tahoe and an 07 maxima. any insight on the ital would be nice to know.

thanks in advance

I haven't seen them side-by-side, but I imagine concours being better since it's got more white carnauba in it. You're perfectly OK using Ital, or any other glaze, on any finish.

MoeMistry · 05-07-07, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Wise 85

Zymol Titanium is one of the seven Estate Glaze waxes offered by Zymol, and should also be applied by bare hands.

Titanium is border line. You can use a foam pad or bare hand. I actually prefer using it with a blue zymol wax applicator. The result is a more even look and easier application. Just my 2 cents.

Nica · 05-07-07, 01:07

Wow there is some great information going on here. I purchased the Vintage, haven't received it just yet but really looking forward to receiving it and using it. I've been reading lost on the Zymol products and applications and the more I read the more comfortable I feel. But reading and doing are two different things.

MoeMistry, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't like bashing things till I try it and well what got me hooked was Concours. The HD-cleanse is a gorgeous product and I really like the application methods, I'm all about doing things by hand...expect the polishing hahaha.

Now I know where and who to ask for feed back.

CalgaryDetail, you’re not a loser (well at least not to me) buddy and I'll definitely phone you as soon as I receive it.

Miracle · 07-01-07, 06:29

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Originally Posted by MoeMistry

Paul is applying the wax improperly. Not sure why he would tell you to put royale on by applicator. In his videos, he's doing it by hand. Apply Ital by hand.

With respect, I have been testing this procedure for over a year, applying wax by hand can sometimes scratch the finish with soft clear coats, with a foam applicator you don't get this problem. I have also done durability tests between the two different ways of applying the wax and found no difference at all.

lbls1 · 07-01-07, 06:58

I have had no problems whatsoever with applying the EGZ glazes by hand. What I like to do is to use soft latex gloves when I apply Vintage (and formerly Concours). It adds another method of safety from accidental marring from fingernails or scaly palms.

If anyone decides to use gloves with their glazes, beware and make sure that you use latex and not rubber and/or clear rubber gloves. You will get the worst micromarring from them.

Applicators tend to use too much of the compound, and if you are not heating up the wax sufficiently you could risk smearing and even marring when you stroke it against the paint.

Edit: Calgary, you should've posted that beautiful Jag with the Concours on it here!!!!!

SilverLexus · 07-01-07, 10:05

Frankly friends, the whole hand application thing smells like BS. You can warm up wax with an applicator. It's just marketing...

Pb2theMax · 07-01-07, 10:47

Yeah, that's true. Buffer pads get real warm.

velobard · 07-02-07, 05:59

I've barely touched my Concours so I'm not claiming to speak with any authority here, but my first impression was that applying by hand would stretch the wax further. The amount of wax left on my hand seemed less than I would wind up with left in a foam pad. I also didn't find application by hand to be any sort of extra hassle at all. I'll obviously bend to Paul's wisdom that it has the potential to mar soft clear coats (and with the effort he puts into his details I'm sure that was enormously frustrating), but that doesn't appear to be a big concern with my cars.

DieselMDX · 07-02-07, 06:03

when i do it again i am going to apply ital and concours by hand and applicator and see how i like it

Miracle · 07-02-07, 07:04

The oils in your skin can scratch a lot of todays paintwork on cars over here, along with me being extremely fussy and checking all cars that I do with a 3M light gun, before, during and after.

Sure it can be a bit of mission to get the hang of using a foam applicator to apply certain waxes, but as everything in the detailing world, its all trial and error and personal preference.

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