Anyone try Prima Amigo glaze under Zaino Z2/Z5?

DJBAILEY · 09-10-06, 04:46

Has anyone tried this Prima Amigo polymer glaze from Detalers Paradise?

http://www.detailersparadise.com

"Prima Amigo; Amigo is a paintwork cleanser...It is a polymer-based glaze...It is a super-fine polish which levels up to 3000 grit imperfections. Prima Amigo; Amigo is a paintwork cleanser...It is a polymer-based glaze...It is a super-fine polish which levels up to 3000 grit imperfections.'

The 3000 grit super-fine polish sounds like a step beyond FPII (I think I've seen a 2500 grit rating for FPII before) and if the polymer glaze has better filling capabilities then Z-5Pro then it sounds like a perfect prep before the Z-5Pro. It is supposed to be compatible with all polymer sealants. They claim there should not be any bonding issues.

Anyone try this stuff prior to Zaino? Was there any bonding issues with the Zaino? Was the durability the same?

I'm willing to try it out on my Volvo and let everyone how it turns out, but if someone's already tried it and it did't work, well then I'll save myself some time and $.

I wonder if my usual pre-wipe with Z-6 before the first layer of Z-5/Z-2 would remove the Prima Amigo glaze?

wannafbody · 09-10-06, 07:56

It's worth a shot. It would proabably work if you did a Z6 wipedown to make sure all oils are removed. Z2Pro seems to be able to bond over other polymers but it might affect the durability some.

Scottwax · 09-10-06, 11:24

Sounds like it'd work great with Acrylic Jett, FMJ or NXT too.

DJBAILEY · 09-11-06, 02:15

I don't think this glaze relies on oils as the filling agent. The filler is polymer based which supposedly makes it compatible with polymer sealants. I think I'm going to call them tomorrow and ask them a few questions and see if they know if anyone has had any experience using it with Zaino on top.

wannafbody · 09-11-06, 08:34

remember that Z5pro acts like a filling glaze as well as a sealant

DJBAILEY · 09-11-06, 10:10

Yeah, but the Z-5Pro has minimal filling capabilties. I'm happy with the results after about 5-6 layers of Z-5Pro. That's something I do on my own car but that's not practical when someone is paying for a detail and expects it to be done in 1 day. But even then it does not match the filling ability of the best glazes out there. In my opinion, the reason that waxes like Souvreign and such look so good is not the wax itself but the glazes you can use under the wax. I bet Souvreign doesn't look as good if its applied to a naked car like we have to do with the Z-5. I mean of course it's going to look good if I'm starting with a shimmering smooth surface that a glaze provides.

DJBAILEY · 09-11-06, 10:34

wannafbody...have you found that Z-2Pro bonds to glazes better than Z-5Pro does?

wannafbody · 09-11-06, 10:45

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Originally Posted by DJBAILEY

wannafbody...have you found that Z-2Pro bonds to glazes better than Z-5Pro does?

I've never used Z over a glaze. I have used Z2pro over Duragloss AW . I'm not sure wether any polymer glaze will do a lot of filling. It's something you'd have to experiment with.

DJBAILEY · 09-11-06, 10:49

I called Detailer's Paradise this morning. They said that there are no oils used in Prima Amigo to worry about. They said that Sal even sent them some Z-2/Z-5 to test its compatibility. They said that they did not experience and bonding issues. The Z-2/Z-5 did not wash off, however they did say that they did not monitor its durability 4-6 months down the road.

They did say that it is finer polish than FPII, its cleanser ability is on par with AIO and its filling ability is significantly superior to Z-5Pro.

I'm going to order some and use my own car as an experiment before using it on a customer's car. I usually put 10-12 Z-5/Z-2 layers on my black Volvo (2x a year) so I hope I am not going to waste it all and see it wash off the car.

I'll post some before/after Prima Amigo pictures. We'll have to wait a few months to see if the Zaino durability is compromised. ( I probably should have done this in the spring incase it doesn'y last and I end up witha stripped car in the middle of winter)

wannafbody · 09-11-06, 11:00

sounds like a good product- Sal indicated that Zaino will bond over polymer products as long as no oils are present. The fact that it's an AIO type product will be a time saver for a pro detailer.

Scottwax · 09-11-06, 03:40

I wonder how it compares to Prime Strong?

AL-53 · 09-11-06, 04:35

Try the Danase Speed glaze..it has no correction properties...but adds nice depth and wetness to the paint..and it is acrylic polymer as well ..at least it says it on the site...

I just tried it with Duragloss 105 and really made it look so much nicer..like a deep wet caranuba look...seen posts where some have used it under Zaino...and said it looked good..but durability is still in the air with the zaino users...

here is some info on it http://www.chemicalguys.com/EZ_Creme...gap_111_16.htm

this is the same as what Danase has..just a different name..this link has a little more info...but buy fom Danase if you decide to get it..great service

http://www.danase.com/daspgl1pi.html

not pushing the product...but may be something your looking for to boost your finished look...

AL