Encountered problem with P21S wax

DSVWGLI · 07-07-06, 08:16

Hey everyone first post in a while. I detailed a black 02 Vette for a customer last week in high ninety temp. Compounded twice and polished twice then put P21S wax on by hand with the sponge it comes with. Did small sections at a time and buffed off right away because of the heat. Everything looked good when I was done. Today I get a call from the guy saying that there is a problem, he thinks his finish is gone. I told him that it's probably the wax I used and that it dried to quick in the hot wheather. When I went over to look at it, it looked a hazy white. So I cleaned a few areas and it was gone. I've had a few problems with P21S wax in the past but nothing like this. I apologized and told him I will clean it and reseal it with something else, I'll probably use EX. Has anyone had this happen before. I think I might throw it out.

tdekany · 07-07-06, 09:08

If you read the label it will say: to apply it to a cool area. You'll need to order Poorboy's Natty's if you work outside like me.

Pb2theMax · 07-07-06, 09:10

Sounds like it didn't bond to the paint good. The paint might have been too hot.

DSVWGLI · 07-07-06, 09:21

All polishing and waxing was done inside my garage, but it was very hot in there. There must be an issue with bonding because of very warm temps. I think this is the last time I will use P21S. Anyone want it, very little used?

RCBuddha · 07-07-06, 09:25

What were the products you compounded and polished with?

DSVWGLI · 07-07-06, 09:55

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Originally Posted by RCBuddha

What were the products you compounded and polished with?

OHC with LC orange pad then OP with LC white pad then SSR 1 with LC white pad.

tdekany · 07-07-06, 09:59

did you wipe off p21s right away?

I'll take the rest of your p21s

DSVWGLI · 07-07-06, 10:06

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Originally Posted by tdekany

did you wipe off p21s right away?

I'll take the rest of your p21s

Hey tdekany, I did two foot sections at a time and wiped it off right after I finished each section. Probably sat for 10 seconds before I wiped it off

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Scottwax · 07-07-06, 10:18

Probably applied too thickly and the excess rehazed. Try using less and wait a minute or two before removing. This isn't just a P21S problem, just typical of carnaubas in warmer weather.

DSVWGLI · 07-07-06, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

Probably applied too thickly and the excess rehazed. Try using less and wait a minute or two before removing. This isn't just a P21S problem, just typical of carnaubas in warmer weather.

That makes sense, I could have applied a bit too much

, I haven't used it in a while. I should have used my Victoria wax, never an issue with it. I remember when I first got P21s I had problems buffing it off, probably left it on too long those times. P21s seems very finicky to me. When I redo the Vette I think I will RMG it to clean it up and give it that nice wet look then EX by PC.

lawrencea · 07-08-06, 06:07

Carnubas tend to bloom in hot weather, that is the hot weather melts the wax and reflow it. A simple rewipe will take care of it, and after the first wash it wont do it anymore.

AuAltima3.5 · 07-08-06, 07:02

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Originally Posted by lawrencea

Carnubas tend to bloom in hot weather, that is the hot weather melts the wax and reflow it. A simple rewipe will take care of it, and after the first wash it wont do it anymore.

ditto. mother's carnuba is all over that reply. I do love my carnubas in the fall/winter