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Old 04-23-06, 02:29   #1 (permalink)
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Prime Strong and AJ Trigger First impressions

I am by no means a pro detailer (or photographer) -
just like to keep my New Jetta shiny.
Its just over a year old and in that time I have lurked at this site and others
trying to find the best combo of products that will give my PlatniumGrey MK5
the clear wet look that I see so often in the posts here.

I've tried a variery of products and like the look that they give but
as many of you am always looking for that something more.

I started w/ a Poorboy's regimen ProPolish/EXP/Natty's and then Natty's Blue
Then I slowly got into the FK line last year replacing Natty's w/ Pink Wax First
then I settled into the 2180/Pinkwax maintaining with the 425 QD.
I really like this combo!

When winter came I replaced Pinkwax with Collinite IW
and made it to spring with minimal marring but wanted to try something new for the spring.

I saw the great results you all were getting with Jeff's stuff so I decided to give it a try.

The rain stopped here in VA this morning so I decided to get the PC out and
strip off the FK.

I got the Prime Strong as I figured it would be best suited to get the multiple layers of 2180/Pink off so I could start with a fresh base for the spring. Some wash induced marring on the trunk but the car is only a year old so the paint was in good condition.

A dime of Prime Strong/ white pad made quick work of the micromarring on the trunk but a must have used to much/or worked to long on the roof as I got dusting everywhere!
Once the pad was moist and I had better control of the amount of product I needed
I got very little dust on the side panels and hood.

After this step I sat down and admired. It seemed wetter and a bit clearer than 2180
to my eyes. I walked around the car w/ a new poorboys "deluxe mega towel"
to get the spots I missed and even in the spots where I had used a bit too much product -
it came of easily. A few spots of the PC splatters left pin size white spots but even these
came off with minimal elbow grease.

Honestly I could have stopped there! It really looked great to my eyes.
But I wanted to try the AJ Trigger sealant.
This was as easy as applying a QD. It was still cool in the shade of my front yard so
I just spayed a bit onto the surface and WOWO with a fresh MF.
Most of the time it just seemed to absorb right into the surface
but it will streak if you use too much. Just take the dry side of the MF
and you are left with a perfect shine.

At first I didnt seem much of a difference. I cleaned the inside up a little and a neighbor
came and wanted to cut his grass. So I moved my car into the sun and that is when I had to grab the camera. Real clear relections and wet.

The pictures dont really do the shine justice but here are a few anyway.
Grey is hard color to make really pop but this combo really has me impressed.
After I get a few more layers of AJ on it I might top w/ a caranuba but
for now I am quite satisfied with the look and the ease of use of this combo.

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Old 04-23-06, 02:37   #2 (permalink)
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looking good

Some good looking pics there. used this combo the other day for the first time. have been using Prime/ AJ for a few months. this combo looks great on your car and did just as well on red. I almost felt like I cheated or something lol ! looks like another winner from this company to me. thanks for the review and keep up the good work.
 
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Good Review. Going to try this combo out soon.
 
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Great, just freakin' great! Now I have to get some prime strong too.

I did my beater (white legend) with prime and AJ today. Came out very nice. Will get some pics tomorrow.

I'm just wandering what prime strong is equal to in cut strength? FPII?
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Great, just freakin' great! Now I have to get some prime strong too.

I did my beater (white legend) with prime and AJ today. Came out very nice. Will get some pics tomorrow.

I'm just wandering what prime strong is equal to in cut strength? FPII?

I would say that the prime stong is almost the same cut as FPII, maybe a touch less. I had seen scott mention prime having some filling properties so that makes me wonder if the strong version does as well. to me the swirls were gone on a red car. I feel that FPII would have done the same. my test would be on black to see how they compare. Menzerna deepens the color to my liking. just my thoughts maybe somebody else can lend theirs. have to admit I wish the prime strong came in bigger containers as I will be using more on customers cars
 
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I don't have the Prime Strong but I do have the carnauba version-made the paint even wetter and deeper over my Menzerna 106/RMG combo!

Looks like I may have to get some Prime Strong, might save me a polishing step.

I definitely agree about Trigger. Incredibly easy to use and the same super clear and wet shine of regular AJ.

Great pics, btw.
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Looks like I may have to get some Prime Strong, might save me a polishing step.

I definitely agree about Trigger. Incredibly easy to use and the same super clear and wet shine of regular AJ.

Great pics, btw.

Scott I was thinking like you as far as saving me a polishing step and was suprised with the results. can not wait to try it again. good to see thay are making products that are more versatile.
 
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I don't have the Prime Strong but I do have the carnauba version-made the paint even wetter and deeper over my Menzerna 106/RMG combo!

Looks like I may have to get some Prime Strong, might save me a polishing step.

I definitely agree about Trigger. Incredibly easy to use and the same super clear and wet shine of regular AJ.

Great pics, btw.
Scottwax, it says on Jeff's site that Prime: Carnauba can be topped with AJ or another polymer. My first thought is, how well will they bond to a basecoat product with carnauba in it? What do you think? Prime: Carnauba may ultimately offer better looks, but if it affects AJ's great durability??? Of course, it'd be great with CJ
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I used the AJ trigger this weekend too. Great stuff, same consistency as Klasse SG without needing to be exact in the quantity used.

I just finished using SSR/AIO/EXP and decided to go for some sealant overkill. The surface was so squeaky clean that the acrylic Jett just disappeared while spreading it with the complimentary MF applicator poorboys sent me. Sprayed some AJ on the Carrera wheels and it left a nice sparkle.

Three sealants (EXP,FX100, AJ) what to do now?
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Three sealants (EXP,FX100, AJ) what to do now?

I would say relax and enjoy some free time
 
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I used the AJ trigger this weekend too. Great stuff, same consistency as Klasse SG without needing to be exact in the quantity used.

I just finished using SSR/AIO/EXP and decided to go for some sealant overkill. The surface was so squeaky clean that the acrylic Jett just disappeared while spreading it with the complimentary MF applicator poorboys sent me. Sprayed some AJ on the Carrera wheels and it left a nice sparkle.

Three sealants (EXP,FX100, AJ) what to do now?
If you have some prime try that on the wheels first next time.
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