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04-19-06, 11:34
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blownvert is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 649 | Menzerna - does this look fine?? I have a black car, people said Menzerna is the best for deepest wettest shine. Here is what i looked at and wanted to order. help me out guys.
QEW
Clay car Menzerna Intensive Polish Menzerna Final Polish II
Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze
Menzerna Full Molecular Jacket
Thats how I would apply it in order on car. About the FMJ being a LSP, could I add natty blue after that or is the Menzerna Full Molecular Jacket really good enough? I want amazing shine. Is clearkote better products for darker colored cars? I would also probably get a spray detailer like poorboys SD. Is Menzerna High Gloss Acrylic Shield a SD? Is it worth it, it says works best with klasse AIO, i wont be getting that soooo. | |
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04-19-06, 12:49
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chpsk8 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 420 | Looks like a great combo. Add a layer of Nattys and it will only get better, not worse!
Have fun with it!! | |
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04-19-06, 01:07
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 649 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by chpsk8 Looks like a great combo. Add a layer of Nattys and it will only get better, not worse!
Have fun with it!! | I just say nattys blue because people like it on the black cars and it gives it the wetness, doesnt FMJ already do that? Can I really add nattys blue over the FMJ after? Then SD the whole car when im done. | |
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04-19-06, 01:31
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Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 397 | once you go with natty's over FMJ, HGAS will no longer prolong the life of the FMJ and it would be better to go with a Carnauba based QD like Spray and GLoss or Pinnacle Crystal Mist.
FMJ does provide amazing slickness and shine, but the natty's will help add depth to the paint. on my wife's audi, she only gets Finishing Glaze and FMJ. No toppers. Looks Fabulous. | |
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04-19-06, 01:45
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 649 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by MachB5 once you go with natty's over FMJ, HGAS will no longer prolong the life of the FMJ and it would be better to go with a Carnauba based QD like Spray and GLoss or Pinnacle Crystal Mist.
FMJ does provide amazing slickness and shine, but the natty's will help add depth to the paint. on my wife's audi, she only gets Finishing Glaze and FMJ. No toppers. Looks Fabulous. | ok so what am i getting no FMJ? you just said they dont work well together, (no longer prolong the life of the FMJ and it would be better to go with a Carnauba). I would spray detail it anyways. | |
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04-19-06, 03:28
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chpsk8 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 420 | I'm a little confused also. Nattys is carnuba, so why would adding a carnuba QD be better than Nattys?  | |
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04-19-06, 03:41
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Originally Posted by blownvert ok so what am i getting no FMJ? you just said they dont work well together, (no longer prolong the life of the FMJ and it would be better to go with a Carnauba). I would spray detail it anyways. | well earlier you mentioned that you thought FMJ would look great alone and I wanted to confirm that it does. If you finish with FMJ, reach for HGAS with your weekly wash and it will prolong the durability of the FMJ. But it you want extra depth and warmth, add Natty's on top of the FMJ LSP . Unfortunately, once you add Natty's I wouldn't waste my HGAS because the acrylic bond with be separated with a layer of wax and the HGAS will no longer prolong the life of the FMJ. No more bonding. That's when I would reach for a spray wax or QD with carnauba to prolong the Natty's. The FMJ will still be under the wax to protect the paint, and now the wax will be too....and you'll be QD'ing to prolong that. I don't know if this makes sense, but this is the best way I can explain it. 
Last edited by MachB5 : 04-19-06 at 03:44.
Reason: misspelled under..added some bold words to clarify
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04-19-06, 04:32
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Originally Posted by MachB5 well earlier you mentioned that you thought FMJ would look great alone and I wanted to confirm that it does. If you finish with FMJ, reach for HGAS with your weekly wash and it will prolong the durability of the FMJ. But it you want extra depth and warmth, add Natty's on top of the FMJ LSP . Unfortunately, once you add Natty's I wouldn't waste my HGAS because the acrylic bond with be separated with a layer of wax and the HGAS will no longer prolong the life of the FMJ. No more bonding. That's when I would reach for a spray wax or QD with carnauba to prolong the Natty's. The FMJ will still be under the wax to protect the paint, and now the wax will be too....and you'll be QD'ing to prolong that. I don't know if this makes sense, but this is the best way I can explain it.  | what is hgas? | |
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04-19-06, 04:53
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Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 397 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by blownvert what is hgas? | High Gloss Acrylic Shield | |
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04-19-06, 05:21
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Originally Posted by MachB5 well earlier you mentioned that you thought FMJ would look great alone and I wanted to confirm that it does. If you finish with FMJ, reach for HGAS with your weekly wash and it will prolong the durability of the FMJ. But it you want extra depth and warmth, add Natty's on top of the FMJ LSP . Unfortunately, once you add Natty's I wouldn't waste my HGAS because the acrylic bond with be separated with a layer of wax and the HGAS will no longer prolong the life of the FMJ. No more bonding. That's when I would reach for a spray wax or QD with carnauba to prolong the Natty's. The FMJ will still be under the wax to protect the paint, and now the wax will be too....and you'll be QD'ing to prolong that. I don't know if this makes sense, but this is the best way I can explain it.  | Makes plenty of sense.
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