Optimum Compound?

ptim · 03-19-06, 03:26

How much more bite does Optimum Compound have than Optimum Polish. I used Optimum Polish with a Megs Polishing pad today. It didnt quite get all the fine scratches out, I was thinking about using/trying Optimum Compound. Any suggestions.

Dent's & Details · 03-19-06, 04:31

Have you used a more agressive pad with the polish?
The Orange pads can really do wonders with the polish and a PC or the Cyclo polisher.

tumbler · 03-19-06, 06:58

i haven't experienced any diff in cut between the Polish and the Compound, using my rotary with yellow and orange pads.. I have to say its one of my biggest disappointments. So I went up to the Hyper compund, and that too, I found to worked so, so , to the point, that I shelved my entire Opt line and gone back to Meg. #83 and Mezerana power gloss..

but excuse my rant, and to hopefully help you, i'd say try to work it in for a longer time at a slower speed.

SVECobraR · 03-19-06, 07:31

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Originally Posted by tumbler

i haven't experienced any diff in cut between the Polish and the Compound, using my rotary with yellow and orange pads.. I have to say its one of my biggest disappointments. So I went up to the Hyper compund, and that too, I found to worked so, so , to the point, that I shelved my entire Opt line and gone back to Meg. #83 and Mezerana power gloss..

but excuse my rant, and to hopefully help you, i'd say try to work it in for a longer time at a slower speed.

wanna trade or sell your optimum line, i have 83, 82?

Datsun · 03-19-06, 08:44

i think they say optimum get more aggresive with the pads the more aggressive the pad the more agressive the polish.

RAG · 03-24-06, 05:30

Datsun, what you say is true to an extent with any polish.

I too have a gallon of #83 I want to trade away. Anyone interested?

Regarding Optimum - I've probably used a couple gallons of the stuff by now. Great product that can be worked a long time...but the trade off is a tendancy to sling via rotary unless you use a dense pad. Optimum Plolish is a strong polish. I respectfully disagree with some of the initial observations that the compound is no stronger than the polish - when using the Compound via a rotary on black, I can definitely see "deeper" halograms and via a PC I see substantially greater haziness.Tumbler...buy a new bottle of the regular compound - I think they secretly increased the number of abrasives in it in recent months. Now on to Hyper Compound - Amazing stuff for a rotary! Doesn't quite have the cut of PowerGloss (my other favorite) but the lack of dust is well worth it - sometimes I prefer to work HyperCompound a little longer to achieve the same cut rather than make a HUGE mess with PG. But if you don't mind a ton of dust - nothing can match the effectiveness of PG followed by IP followed by FP II. I mean nothing!

One other thing about Optimum Polish - for me it is not a LSP ready on black. It usually looks really good, but not as good as can be. Via rotary I can usually see light halograms and via PC I can see the finish is not as clear as it can be as if were finished with something like FP II or PO85RD. I do about 2 $400 details a week on black vehicles, so I have a ton of polishing experience with Menzerna and Optimum...my two favs.

1SLOW50 · 03-24-06, 06:04

When using the OP via rotary the results were quite dissapointing. Didn't have very much bite. This was with a green edge pad.

Anthony Orosco · 03-24-06, 06:33

RAG is pretty much right on in his descriptions.

PG is much faster cutting wise than Hyper BUT the trade off is dust. Hyper can give very nice results, and finish out nicer but it doesn't cut as quick as PG.

Same with IP and OCP. One cuts quicker but also dusts more.

I love FPII on dark colors and will say that it does finish out a shade finer than OCP on those colors.....at least for now

I get really nice results with OCP and the green polishing pads.....this is my fav combo.

Anthony

tumbler · 03-24-06, 07:08

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Originally Posted by SVECobraR

wanna trade or sell your optimum line, i have 83, 82?

i'd rather throw it out.. as my time is more important

its so not worth my time to package, go the post office,

if only you were local ..

RAG · 03-24-06, 10:44

Anthony...I have about 10 of the green AB/Propel pads and find that I'm using them less and less due to the sling - I can't run much over 1,000 rpms with the green and OP without getting sling. I like to run faster than that - call me impatient

Do have similar results. I've had great result with IP and the green - I've actually finished with this combo on some lighter colored cars.

And I have to take something back - right now as we speek I'm detailing a black Lexus, and after finishing with OP and a white Propel/AB pad, pulling the car in the sun revealed no halograms. LSP ready for sure in this case, but it really depends on the paint at hand.

1slow50 - OP is quite strong for a polish. If you didn't get the results you were hoping for, then you'll have to go to something stronger. Try IP if you have not tried before - awesome via rotary or PC.

SVECobraR · 03-24-06, 10:58

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Originally Posted by tumbler

i'd rather throw it out.. as my time is more important

its so not worth my time to package, go the post office,

if only you were local ..

i'll pay you for it, whatever the cost. Don't throw it out.

tdekany · 03-24-06, 02:34

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Originally Posted by RAG

Anthony...I have about 10 of the green AB/Propel pads and find that I'm using them less and less due to the sling - I can't run much over 1,000 rpms with the green and OP without getting sling. I like to run faster than that - call me impatient

Do have similar results. I've had great result with IP and the green - I've actually finished with this combo on some lighter colored cars.

Either you are using way too much op, or you need to "learn" to pick up the polish. I run both op & oc at 1500rpm