Collinite's 476S Super Doublecoat Auto Wax Review - Page 3

maesal · 04-06-06, 02:23

Does anybody have a comparison with photos between results with Nattys (or Nattys Blue) and a Collinite wax?
I've Nattys in my black car (I preffer Nattys than Nattys Blue, I sold it), and I'm using EX-P as sealant. I'm thinking about this process:
1.- Seal with EX-P;
2.- Wax with 476S x 2 (it will fill the mini-swrils that I have now);
3- Wax with Nattys x 2: It will add more depth, wet look and mores flakes.
A question: Does 476S, or Insulator Wax, acts as sealant? If affirmative, what is the point of using EX-P?
I thought that the seal process is with a sinthetic wax, and the waxing with a natural wax. Could anybody explain the difference?
Thanks !!

EdLancer · 04-06-06, 03:34

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Originally Posted by maesal

Does anybody have a comparison with photos between results with Nattys (or Nattys Blue) and a Collinite wax?
I've Nattys in my black car (I preffer Nattys than Nattys Blue, I sold it), and I'm using EX-P as sealant. I'm thinking about this process:
1.- Seal with EX-P;
2.- Wax with 476S x 2 (it will fill the mini-swrils that I have now);
3- Wax with Nattys x 2: It will add more depth, wet look and mores flakes.
A question: Does 476S, or Insulator Wax, acts as sealant? If affirmative, what is the point of using EX-P?
I thought that the seal process is with a sinthetic wax, and the waxing with a natural wax. Could anybody explain the difference?
Thanks !!

As you know sealants are more durable than organic waxes such as carnuabas, but sealants lack the warmth associated with old school carnuabas. Also, sealants pose a problems for professional detailers in that they must wait a day for it to cure before they can layer it with a coat of carnauba for that finishing touch. So, this is where Collinite 476S or 845IW comes in, the durability of a polymer sealant and the warmth of a carnuaba ! I usually use NXT as sealant to bring out the darker color on my red paint and top it with 845IW or 476S depending on the season.

maesal · 05-02-06, 12:55

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

I tried S100 over 845 and couldn't see any improvement

Then, do you think that Collinites are very similar to S100/P21S in looking?
Thanks.

marko · 05-02-06, 04:33

no photos, but right now for lsp's I have 476s * 1 + 845iw * 2 + natty's blue * 1 on nighthawk black pearl. the 476s alone is sharp and cold and pretty. adding 845iw adds a bit of depth and warmth. natty's puts it over the top. looks terrific. for now. I have some fx100 and 425 and pinkwax to try next.

Accumulator · 05-03-06, 09:27

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Originally Posted by maesal

Then, do you think that Collinites are very similar to S100/P21S in looking?

Let's see if I can explain my take on this....I haven't used P21S all that much but to me it looks a lot like Meguiar's #16, which I *do* use a lot. The P21s might look a little better, but they're close, very reflective and "clean" looking for carnauba.

I had #16 on my wife's silver A8, it looked great. I decided to put 476S over top of it for added protection in the winter. It muted the look, really made it look far less impressive. I was kinda shocked at how much worse it looked, as I really like 476S. I was so disappointed that this last winter I just stayed with the #16.

I still like 476S but that was a real eye-opener for me. I'm *still* surprised that the 476S disappointed me so much....but that won't stop me from putting it on some of our cars

maesal · 05-03-06, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Let's see if I can explain my take on this....I haven't used P21S all that much but to me it looks a lot like Meguiar's #16, which I *do* use a lot. The P21s might look a little better, but they're close, very reflective and "clean" looking for carnauba.

I had #16 on my wife's silver A8, it looked great. I decided to put 476S over top of it for added protection in the winter. It muted the look, really made it look far less impressive. I was kinda shocked at how much worse it looked, as I really like 476S. I was so disappointed that this last winter I just stayed with the #16.

I still like 476S but that was a real eye-opener for me. I'm *still* surprised that the 476S disappointed me so much....but that won't stop me from putting it on some of our cars

My god... I'm very surprised about this opinion... And, how many months does #16 will survive? Could it be a 476S competitor in duration?

marko · 05-03-06, 01:57

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

I had #16 on my wife's silver A8, it looked great. I decided to put 476S over top of it for added protection in the winter. It muted the look, really made it look far less impressive. I was kinda shocked at how much worse it looked, as I really like 476S. I was so disappointed that this last winter I just stayed with the #16.

surprising, indeed. you know it's been a while since I've applied #16 as my lsp and I've been wondering how I'll feel about it when I try it again. maybe I'll try a little test on the jeep. it has a single layer of 476s now and used to look pretty darned good with #16. perhaps I'll top the 476s with #16 and see if I have a similar problem - now I'm kind of wondering about 845iw as well.

do you suppose reversing the order of application would make a significant difference in appearance (#16 over 476s v. 476s over #16)? if so, it would be yet another definitive statement about actually layering carnubas. looks like I already know what this weekend's 'unexpected' project will be.

Accumulator · 05-03-06, 03:53

First off, don't get too stressed about my disappointment as explained above, it was just a FYI and one that's merely one person's take on a single situation. It was one of those direct comparisons on a paint I *know* and I doubt if most other people would've seen it the same way. Still, *I* did.

I've had good results topping 476S with spit-shined Souveran. But I dunno if mixing up the order of #16 and 476S will make any difference, I kinda doubt it but I'd put the 476S on first if you want to try it. Actualy, it just *might* work out really well, no way to tell until you try.

Actually, the least two cars I did with 476S looked great with just that on it, so again, don't write it off just because of what I saw on the A8. Note that I found KSG unacceptable on that paint too, I'm really fussy about Audi silver and I've seen that particular paint looking the way I like it forever and a day so I'm perhaps uniquely opinionated about it (and you know what they say about opinions anyhow).

#16 can't compete with 476S when it comes to durability. #16 isn't bad, but 476S is in a whole 'nother league.

marko- Heh heh, I sincerely doubt that when you used 476S instead of the #16 you were disappointed, right? If you don't see a problem then don't worry about what I saw.

marko · 05-03-06, 04:57

nonono. you're absolutely right. it would take far more effort than I'm willing to extend to find a way to be disappointed in collinite, but it's too late. the thought's already been planted in my mind (and I have an open tin of #16).

ok, I take that back now that I think about it. from time to time over summer months I'm somewhat disappointed that topping collinite with something else alters those amazing beads. does that count?

maesal · 05-03-06, 11:15

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Originally Posted by marko

it has a single layer of 476s now and used to look pretty darned good with #16. perhaps I'll top the 476s with #16 and see if I have a similar problem.

Sorry marko, I don't understanf that, my english is a bit limited... could you explain it in other way? I don't know about your comments if you prefer 476s or #16 looking. What does darned mean? And LSP (I read the acronyms, but I don't see that...)?
I was thinking about topping 476S with P21S, I hope I won't have any problem.
Thanks !!

Accumulator · 05-04-06, 08:06

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Originally Posted by maesal

Sorry marko, I don't understanf that, my english is a bit limited... could you explain it in other way? I don't know about your comments if you prefer 476s or #16 looking. What does darned mean? And LSP (I read the acronyms, but I don't see that...)?
I was thinking about topping 476S with P21S, I hope I won't have any problem.
Thanks !!

Hope Marko doesn't mind my answering.

He's saying that he really liked how it looked with the #16 and he's worried that it might not look as good now (with the 476S). He's considering putting #16 over the 476S to see how it looks.

"Darned" = polite way of saying "damned". Here, both mean "rather"- Pretty darned good = very good.

maesal · 05-04-06, 08:21

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Hope Marko doesn't mind my answering.

He's saying that he really liked how it looked with the #16 and he's worried that it might not look as good now (with the 476S). He's considering putting #16 over the 476S to see how it looks.

"Darned" = polite way of saying "damned". Here, both mean "rather"- Pretty darned good = very good.

Thanks man !! You're also my new english teacher

I'll try maybe P21S over 476S.
Thanks again !!