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Old 04-09-05, 11:03   #1 (permalink)
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Just gotta say I Z'd the Subie the other day.

Me, a non-Z guy.

It looked really, really WHITE.

Thanks to member cwcad for sending me some Z!

I QEW'd. After a month outside 24/7, in some of the worst rain and snow we've ever had in this area, I'm sad to say that the NXT wasn't there at all. Not just not shining; it was gone. I know what bare paint feels like.

I used the Z-1/Z-2 instead of the little eyedropper thing. I wanted the cleaning power of that Z-1, which I think is a good thing. QEW doesn't work real well on tar spots, but the Z-1 does a good mild cleaning job. I applied with a Cobra mf-wrapped applicator. One thing: it's really hard to see Z-1 on satin white, which is naturally flat looking to begin with... we normally look for the difference between the flat and the shine to see where we've already been, and that line wasn't visible!

I trusted that the Z-1 was there, and applied the Z-2, again with a Cobra mf-wrapped applicator. Another thing: If I were doing this again, I would use a foam applicator rather than the mf-wrapped foam applicator. IMO, the mf soaked up too much product, and was wasteful.

I let the Z-2 frost for a while, I did some interior stuff. WIping off the Z was easy. To those who say that Z is labor intensive, I'll say, no it isn't. It's the same as using any cleaner/polish 2 step. If a guy lists all the steps of a regular non-Z job, we don't call it a "Meguiar's labor intensive afternoon waxing". I think Z people make it SEEM more labor intensive by including a lot of steps that are common to ALL complete details. But using the product itself is the same as using any cleaner followed by wax; Pinnacle Paint Cleaner followed by Liquid Souv, or GEPC followed by P21S.

When I was done, the car was... white. As white as the day I bought it, as white as the day I NXT'd it. I did definitely notice the slickness, which I really like. Was there some extra pop from the Z? Not really. Was there any extra pop the next day? The car looked great, but not any moreso than when I NXT'd it. I don't think that this is any indicaton that Z is inferior; rather, I don't think that there's a whole lot that any wax can do for a paint that has been designed to be "unglossy". The stuff is supposed to look like a frosted Christmas ornament, and no Z and no NXT and no poly-anything is going to make it look any different.

I'll say that I do like the Z. It is easy to use and shines well. But for this car, I think I'd do just fine using up all that cleaner wax that's laying around.

Pictures were tough, first because they don't show any useful detail, and second because the fading light prevented me from getting any good sun- or depth- shots. Here's what I got.









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Old 04-09-05, 11:15   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, I guess you picked a color that really is going to look pretty decent no matter what you put over it. Where Z2 will shine is the durability. I agree about the ease of use too. I think the reason people think Zaino is hard to use is because some people have such convoluted methods of applying it, Dawn wash, clay, Dawn wash, 3 layers of this, damp mf that, etc. Cut through all that and it isn't any harder than other products I've used.

BTW, try the Shokar yet?
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Old 04-24-05, 11:22   #3 (permalink)
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Hey Mosca,

It seems that you found out the same thing that i found out about Zaino products. they work fine but....is it better than any other high end product?

Your subie looks great in the pictures. Wish it was a different color just for posting purposes. I have to say that the Zaino products are working on my wife's car very well. So well in fact that she washed the car by hand just the other day.

Now all that is left is to give your opinion on the durabilty of the Zaino. I am only one month in to my study. i have at least five months left before i can report. Hope you keep us informed as to how it lasts in the months to come.
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Old 04-24-05, 12:22   #4 (permalink)
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Mosca, nice report and pix's.
My only concern with your analysis of appearance is the skipping the normal Autopian's prep that we use for all LSP. Until you cleanse/ mild polish the paint and after a long winter at least a claying session you will not receive the full effect of Zaino or any LSP places in this test in terms appearance qualities.
If this was just a test on how easy Zaino is to use, you came up with the correct analysis. No easier or harder to use than any LSP after prepping.

Prepping for a LSP that contains no masking agents can be tricky but a great challenge for those will to perfect their skills.
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Old 04-24-05, 12:51   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input. The car was clayed in early February as part of our dealership's new car prep (we use microfiber towels, too, believe it or not). I bought it Feb 25th. At that time it didn't need clayed; I tried a small area (behind the front wheel, and on the hood) and was satisfied.

My understanding is that the Z1 is a cleaner; it smells like one and acts like one. That's why I went 1/2 instead of the eyedropper. It's hard to explain, but I think you'll know what I mean when I say that I knew it was clean bare paint; an experience thing, I guess. You're right, though; I probably should have cellophaned it just to be sure.

Today it's still nice and slippery. I know it's only a couple weeks, but it still feels like the day I first used it. I must say, I'm pleased with the product. I'd guess that it is probably longer lasting than many other products, but for this guy who waxes once a month for relaxation that's not a concern. For that reason only I don't see myself buying the product, I have too much stuff already. If I were out of product and wanted to wax every 3-4 months, I'd probably use Z.


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Old 04-24-05, 01:35   #6 (permalink)
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Tom I should have written a sidenote stating that in your case the paint was most likely in great shape. My statement was meant for those who may read your post and conclude that a wash, Z1 and Z polishes was all they need to do to get the results in your pixs.

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I'd guess that it is probably longer lasting than many other products, but for this guy who waxes once a month for relaxation that's not a concern. For that reason only I don't see myself buying the product, I have too much stuff already. If I were out of product and wanted to wax every 3-4 months, I'd probably use Z.
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Waxing is a hard addiction to break. Like you, I find much enjoy and peace from the world's activities when I detail. I alsways joke with Sal that his product can be boring because of it durability and maintenence of that "just detailed" appearance, wash after wash. I guess he fixed that by introducing Z8 to help cure that waxing craving.
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Old 04-24-05, 01:59   #7 (permalink)
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If you need to wax every month, just add coats of Z
 
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