New Megs Products

[ALAN81]

Paco you bring up a few good points. I really think in the near future MEGs will discontinue a few products. I really don't know for sure.

[paco]

It seems to me to they are trying to re-invent themselves (as much as a wax/polish company can) and either they don't have:

1. A strong clear mission statement
2. Clear direction
3. Or are facing multiple agenda's

It almost seems like they are trying to due too much too quickly.

Personally, the NXT line launch for some reason has left me with a bitter taste and looking to other companies for products.

Strange .. but true. It seems as though others might be feeling the same way.

[ZaneO]

Originally posted by paco
It seems to me to they are trying to re-invent themselves (as much as a wax/polish company can) and either they don't have:

1. A strong clear mission statement
2. Clear direction
3. Or are facing multiple agenda's

It almost seems like they are trying to due too much too quickly.

Personally, the NXT line launch for some reason has left me with a bitter taste and looking to other companies for products.

Strange .. but true. It seems as though others might be feeling the same way.

I agree with you and do feel the same way.

In part because of their representatives and in part because of their tactics.

[paco]

Mike Phillips,

I know it may sound like I'm coming down hard on Meguiars but I appreciate your feedback and the helpfulness in teaching users on how to use Meguiar's products. You've provided a lot of very useful information and I look forward to what else you may have up your sleeve with tips etc.

I guess being the No. 1 manufacturer in the country for detailing products, there's a certain level of expectation that comes with it.

Paco

[the other pc]

By the same token we can we think of GM as lacking;
"1. A strong clear mission statement
2. Clear direction
3. Or are facing multiple agenda's"
because Saturn, Cadillac, Chevy, Saab, and GMC all have new products that are launched with great fanfare and entirely different marketing angles.

Meg's may not a big company but they are a big player in the polish&wax world. They service all segments of the polish&wax market so it's not surprising that they have multiple products that basically do the same thing but are either formulated or packaged differently for different customers' needs.

Think of Meg's many customers:
John Q. Public
Ernie Enthusiast
Detailer Dan
Painter Pete
Commercial Carwash Kate
Body Shop Bob
Olivia OEM

All want to make cars (not to mention boats, planes and trains) look shiny but each has different requirements and purchases in different volumes through different channels.


PC.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally posted by the other pc
By the same token we can we think of GM as lacking;
"1. A strong clear mission statement
2. Clear direction
3. Or are facing multiple agenda's"
because Saturn, Cadillac, Chevy, Saab, and GMC all have new products that are launched with great fanfare and entirely different marketing angles.

As I think I said earlier in this thread...the closure of the Oldmobile and Plymouth divisions, and rumors about Mercury are proof that the big three are rethinking their "all things to all people" strategy. I'm a GM guy, and I would accuse GM of the things you mention (at various times in history)...so I don't think this is the best argument to call us hypocrites in regard to Meguiar's (I'm a Meg's guy too).

[jfelbab]

Meguiar's makes a lot of good products. So how is that bad for us? I much rather have more choices than less any day of the week.

Sometimes I like #16, others I reach for #26. Frequently I use NXT. Occasionally I want a cleaner wax for my trailer, or something for the boat.

Sometimes #9 is fine and others I like #82 or #83. # 81 and #7 are fine too.

Sometimes I use consumer products, sometimes professional products and others I grab something from the detailer line.

More is better.

[SteveOst]

Originally posted by jfelbab
Meguiar's makes a lot of good products. So how is that bad for us? I much rather have more choices than less any day of the week.

Sometimes I like #16, others I reach for #26. Frequently I use NXT. Occasionally I want a cleaner wax for my trailer, or something for the boat.

Sometimes #9 is fine and others I like #82 or #83. # 81 and #7 are fine too.

Sometimes I use consumer products, sometimes professional products and others I grab something from the detailer line.

More is better.

OK, it's time for me to jump in here. I now know the difference between #16 and #26, can't say for the rest of the stuff, but when I first started, even now for that matter, I couldn't figure out what the difference was between Quick Detailer, Final Inspection, Final Detail, ad infinitum. Therein lies the problem. If they want to produce ALL these products for ALL aspects, then they need to do a better job of explaining what those differences are and why. Their oh so brief descriptions just lead to the impression that they're probably all the same, but with different labels for different strokes.

[ScubaStevo]

What happend to the Meguiars Rep/ autopia member that was on here?

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally posted by jfelbab
Meguiar's makes a lot of good products. So how is that bad for us? I much rather have more choices than less any day of the week. ... Sometimes I use consumer products, sometimes professional products and others I grab something from the detailer line. ... More is better.

Normally speaking, I would revel in more products, in the figuring out the nuances between products...that somehow is part of the mastery, in a different way than the tactile mastery of using the products. Specifying products is part of my job, so I'm into it, you know? But it gets tiring when you can't really figure out what the differences are...as SteveOst said, Meg's doesn't give you enough info/explanation to really understand the differences, forcing you to guess, experiment, or endlessly search posts on MOL. While I'm at it, Poorboy's isn't any better...when do you use Professional Polish instead of SSR1? But at least with Poorboy's there's only one alternate, instead of 8.

So, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just the older I get the more I want to simplify my life.

[SteveOst]

Originally posted by Setec Astronomy

So, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just the older I get the more I want to simplify my life.

Amen!

[Pats300zx]

What happend to the Meguiars Rep/ autopia member that was on here?

Mike Phillips is still around.