New Megs Products - Page 2

paco · 11-02-04, 01:24

Their brushes look alright (sort of like OXO) but really, nothing really surprising and the microfiber's aren't anything new (just catching up). The cotton / MF blended towel looks interesting.

I just don't understand why they keep complicating their product line-up????

Consumer, 1-2-3, Gold Class, NXT, Pro, Bodyshop, Detailer and then mix in the odd ball item here (Scratch X etc.) and there and it's freaking complex to say in the least!

Why not just do away with the Gold Class (brushes could have been badged NXT) and Pro lines?

How many different washes to they have now? It's gotta be something like 6 or more?

How many different waxes to they have now? Probably something like 6+ (No. 16, No. 26, NXT, 3 (from the 1-2-3), GoldClass, Detailer Line, ...)

How many different vinyl dressing do they have now? In excess of 4 or 5?

I'm starting to get why a lot of my friends go to mother's line of products - simple, effective and easy to understand. Just like a lot of online products (clearkote, poorboys, 1Z ...)

Considering the number of products they released, I was disappointed. Nothing really that I want to try out.

Paco

BigLeegr · 11-02-04, 03:57

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Originally posted by Inzane
Well... I guess that means NXT is a "wax" afterall. I mean, if it was a "sealant" by the proper definition could it even exist as a paste?

I'm not aware of any other "sealants" that are available as a paste: not Zaino, not Klasse SG, not UPPP, not EX-P, not Wolfgang, etc... What gives? And what does this do to the 'ol wax vs. sealant debate?

Nu-Finish is generally considered a sealant, as it isn't a wax (officially it's called a "polish", but has protection) and it's available in paste or liquid. I think a "sealant" just has to protect. Technically wax could be a sealant. So could glazes. Generally products seem to be called sealants if they don't have carnauba wax in them, so any "synthetic wax" could be a sealant. Waxes that have both polymers and carnauba would be hybrids, but if there are only 2 classes (wax/sealant) it would be up to the mfg. to determine the products placement. Kind of like the "wax/polish/glaze" name thing.

Just my thoughts on this.

eShine · 11-02-04, 04:38

I was told that the NXT paste was replacing #16 and possibly #26. I guess we will see! I can't wait to try the NXT paste!

ALAN81 · 11-02-04, 07:15

Megs has the best marketing in the world.They really Hype a product then it turns out to be just good.Do you really think they waited 10 years to release this wax,i don't think so but that is just me.Im sure there new products will be more hype.For those who think I am bashing MEGS im not I just know marketing from school and business

Setec Astronomy · 11-02-04, 07:37

Let's not get cynical here. 6 car washes and 4 QD's...kind of adds to the fun of it, no? Ultimately, this continual product differentiation will backfire...I mean, there used to be Oldmobiles and Plymouths, you know?

I'm a Meg's guy and I could hardly figure it out before...how does "insane" tire shine fit in with "hot" and with "endurance", oh and do you want urs in a pump or aerosol, high or low gloss?

If this sounds like I'm not taking this seriously, I'm not. I started using Meg's when I had to go to an autobody store to get the numbered products, when it seemed like THEY took it seriously. At least they didn't announce anything with blue crystals.

Don't take ME too seriously, I'm a little grumpy this morning.

SteveOst · 11-02-04, 07:50

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Originally posted by ALAN81
Do you really think they waited 10 years to release this wax,i don't think so but that is just me.

That phrase caught my eye too. I don't believe it either because I think in 10 years paints change.

SteveOst · 11-02-04, 07:56

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Originally posted by paco
I just don't understand why they keep complicating their product line-up????

Yeah, that bothers me too. Too many seemingly identical products with different names. I think it is deliberate so you will buy more because you might think they are really different. In my case, it makes me buy less or none because I can't figure out which ONE I really want. I buy someone elses product because it targets a specific need and doesn't compete with itself.

DavidB · 11-02-04, 08:00

I come from the computer industry, which reinvents itself every 18 months or so. Old concepts are all-of-a-sudden brand new again. The car care industry is no different. It has to reinvent itself every couple of years to remain fresh. Some of the spin is new packaging and some of it is truly new invention or better technology.

I think Meguiar's has a "better idea" with its brushes. The handles are reversable to change the angle of use. This is important when you have wheels with a deep offset. I'm anxious to get my hand on them.

My understanding of NXT paste wax is that it is a faithful rendering of the existing NXT Tech Wax in a paste form. It will be marketed to people who prefer waxing with a paste.

I don't see that Meguiar's is complicating their line; it is evolving. I'm sure we will see older product drop out of their catalog as these new products come up to speed.

stevet · 11-02-04, 08:10

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Originally posted by Setec Astronomy
Let's not get cynical here. 6 car washes and 4 QD's...kind of adds to the fun of it, no?

No, it adds to the confusion of deciding what products to choose. I use and like several Megs products but feel they have to many products that seem to do the same thing. Now it's getting absurd.

SilverLexus · 11-02-04, 08:12

I missed this thread and posted a similar one over in the Products section.

Setec Astronomy · 11-02-04, 08:14

David, coming from someone who is simplifying his own store, I would think you would be a little more critical of all those Gold Class brushes. I mean, they do look nice, and they seem reasonably priced, but to me, it's deviating from the core competency of the company. They don't MAKE brushes, after all, they make waxes/chemicals.

I hope they are going whole hog into brushes/applicators/MF's because their chemical business is going so well...not the other way around, because that is a sure route to going down the tubes...trying to pump up your core manufacturing business by selling a product you don't make.

paco · 11-02-04, 08:35

Mike,

I was wondering the same thing but not necessarily because of the Gold Class detailing supplies.

I've read recently that automotive detailing by consumers is down when compared to a few years ago. There's a number of reasons why that is happening but couple that with an ever tighter retail competition and the online boutique businesses; I wonder how much it is impacting them.

It almost seems as though they are stretching themselves very thin and flooding the market with several products that all do the same thing and focusing on marketing rather than coming up with better products.

I've been a Meguiar's user for over 15 years (Pro line mainly) as it hasn't been until the last 2 years that I've found myself looking to other brands because of the confusing array of products they sell. Also, NXT in my opinion isn't as good as it's marketed.

With exception of Gold Class wax, they haven't really come out with a significant product in the past 10 years (in my opinion).

Sure we (Autopia) find old products and make them new again (No. 16 or Speed Glaze) but for the most part ... they haven't really made a noticable improvement to any of their formulations.

Their new detailer line looks interesting but not enough people have tried it to say it's worth it. However, once again, 1 APC diluted corrected could cover 2 or 3 of those separate items.

Paco