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Old 10-15-04, 12:53   #1 (permalink)
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Winter prep time: Meg's #20 vs. Poorboy's EX-P for winter protection?

Its about time to get our two daily-driven vehicles ready for the winter season (we're supposed to get our first snow tomorrow).

Just wondering what the thoughts were on the relative durability between #20 and EX-P. Between those two, and NXT, those are the only "sealants" I own. Everything else I have in my arsenal is either a carnuaba paste wax (P21S, Natty's) or a liquid wax (GC, #26, DC Step 3).

I love the look of VM + EX-P, but I'm just not sure if EX-P will outlast #20 in the winter? Any thoughts?

(I'm pretty sure #20 will outlast NXT).
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Old 10-15-04, 01:33   #2 (permalink)
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well from posting on the meguiars forum NXT is supposed to be better than 20. However i got good durability from 20 as opposed to NXT
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Old 10-15-04, 01:53   #3 (permalink)
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I would do EXPx2 but not use VM under it as I suspect EXP would not "stick" as well to a glaze as opposed to just a clean paint surface.
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Old 10-15-04, 01:56   #4 (permalink)
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EX-P does ok sticking to VM. I know many here have had success with it, but as always, your opinion and mileage may vary

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I think that you would get better protection from natty's or another paste wax. I have used ex, ex-p, and natty's. The natty's seemed to bead longer and bugs, etc. were easier to remove.
 
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I own and have used both #20 and EX-P. I can't really tell you wich is more durable because I never leave anything on long enough to really test it. One thing to keep in mind is #20 can't be layered because of the cleaners in it. Poorboy's EX-P can.
 
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I'm not sure which lasts longer, either as Steve said. Never had either on long enough to completely die. Either one should be fine but I would top with #16 so you have a durable sacrificial layer on top.
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I would top with #16 so you have a durable sacrificial layer on top.
I'm curious why #16 generally seems to be considered more durable than P21S, when according to the guru reports P21S clearly beat it in the tests? (I've wondered this a while)
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I'm curious why #16 generally seems to be considered more durable than P21S, when according to the guru reports P21S clearly beat it in the tests? (I've wondered this a while)
I have no idea but I doubt many would who have used both would consider S100/P21S more durable than #16. Some of the Guru Tests durability results were right on with my results, others weren't.
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I may have to pick up some #16 then. Its not an off the shelf item around here but I can special order it from a local Meguiar's distributor, and its not too expensive if I recall.

Anyway, in the meantime I went ahead and used #20 on my wife's car today. Washed with NXT car wash, and applied one coat of #20.

Today was probably the last outdoor driveway carwash I get to do until next spring. From now on it will be quick blasts in the coin-op wand wash now and then, or QEW in my garage on semi-warm winter nights with only the heat from my twin 500w halogens to keep me warm.

Its going to snow tomorrow...
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I may have to pick up some #16 then. Its not an off the shelf item around here but I can special order it from a local Meguiar's distributor, and its not too expensive if I recall.

Got some bad news for you. #16 is discontinued in Canada. Your local Megs distributor might not be able to get it. You might have to order from a U.S. vendor. If I remember correctly the guy who runs the Canadian on line store eShine.ca bought up all of Megs Canada's remaining stock of #16.
 
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If I remember correctly the guy who runs the Canadian on line store eShine.ca bought up all of Megs Canada's remaining stock of #16.
You did remember correctly!

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