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Old 07-11-04, 05:36   #1 (permalink)
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SHould I use anything over Klasse SG or Zaino Show Car Polish?

I have been using a combination of the following in this order on my 330i BMW daily driver:
1) Meguires NXT
2) Klasse AIO (Where Necessary)
3) Klasse SG or Zaino Polish (Depends on MY Mood)

Would the P21S add anything to the finish of my BMW on top of any of these other products. I usually alternate front/sides/back one week and hood/roof/trunk on the opposite week. So, in short, the car gets polish every week - I just alternate.
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I apply all products by hand using microfibre towels and I am pleased with the results. I have been curious about the P21S and was considering trying it. Is it worth my money and time picking up some of the Carnuba wax? Also, will P21S stain the grainy black trim on my body side mouldings?

Thanks for any help that you can share.

Also, I have been using the same process on my Mustang GT show car as per Chris Pace of www.eshine.ca , and wondered if the P21S might help me bring home some additional hardware with it.

Would I have to strip off the P21S before applying the NXT the next time I wanted to detail the entire car or would the NXT strip it off for me? Again, would I see a difference in the finish with the P21S? I use the Zaino Gloss Enhancer Spray at car shows for touch ups during the day.
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Old 07-11-04, 05:47   #2 (permalink)
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The Vortech Blower really adds some lungs to the SOHC for sure. It also adds some more polished accent to the engine bay as well.

I will be adding a polished Aftercooler and more boost shortly aiming for 425rwhp as my final total, with a safe tune.

Anyway, back to detailing business...any thoughts on me adding the P21S?
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Darren, any quality Carnauba topper will add depth and slickness. I recommend the P21S or the Poorboy's Natty's Wax. I would also try to use Sonus instead of the Zaino as a QD over Klasse because the Sonus will prolong the Acrylics in Klasse whereas the Zaino is a complete different formula. Sonus now also makes a QD for the Carnaubas so that can be used when you top the Klasse!

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I go Klasse AIO, Klasse SG, then P21S. That's what everybody was telling me. People tell me if you put on the NXT wax it will take off the carnuba, because it has cleaning agents. It's a sealent. Wax that won't remove Klasse Sealent
I put three squirts of SOnus Spritz with the KlasseAIO. When I got the shiz. I listened and it looks unbelivalble. I have people offering me $200 to do there car. After the AIO I put on two coats of the Klasse SG then 2 coats of P21s. With the NXT I put that on my girls Jetta. I put two coats on NXT two days in a row, then two coats of P21S. Just to try out and she flipped on how deep it looked. I have a metalic melange and she has a carmel red paint It's hard to impress her when her dad has 5 classic Camaro's.
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Darren ... don't worry about staining the black trim .. just spend 3 minutes masking it off before you wax .. Issue solved .. Blue painters tape .. $4.95
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From what I've read in Autopia land P21s won't stain your trim and is pretty easy to apply for a carnauba.

425 at the wheels, whoa nellie, I can see some future red faced Z06 owners in your rear view. They won't know what hit'em. The only thing I like seeing better than a shiny hood is an open one with that blower.
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You could also give Meguiars #16 a try, its more durable then P21S. I was able to find it in downtown Toronto.
 
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Vinylex and a tooth brush will
1) remove any wax from rubber or plastic trim pieces
2) will clean off any oxidized rubber
3) will nourish and protect rubber and plastic parts - it contains a UV blocker
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You could also give Meguiars #16 a try, its more durable then P21S. I was able to find it in downtown Toronto.
Where did you find the #16 in T.O.?
 
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I have Klasse topped with P21S on both my wife's bamboo Lexus and daughter's dark grey Mazda. I have been very pleased with this combo. I do find that leaving wax residue in small crevices is somewhat of an issue for me using P21S. My most recent detail on my Jet Black BMW is Klasse only; at present 3 coats of SG. I'm certain I do not have as astute an eye as many of the professional detailers on this board, but to be honest I'm not sure that I don't like the virgin Klasse better or at least as much as the topped SG. And I don't have the wax residue issue. I think I'll just continue adding layers of SG for a while.
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