FINAL DETAIL / LAST TOUCH is there a $3.00 difference?

Gadfly · 05-31-04, 04:17

My question: Since Final Detail is claimed to be not bodyshop safe, is it then, that Meguires is remiss by not including the "non bodyshop compatable" components in the MSDS?

If so, what is the real difference between Final Detail and Last Touch? Besides $3.00. Inquiring minds want to know.

Gadfly · 05-31-04, 04:55

Let me put this another way:

Final Detail is claimed to not be bodyshop safe, supposedly because it contains "silicones." But, no "silicones" are listed on its MSDS.

Last Touch does list "silicones" in its MSDS. But, it costs $3.00 more per gallon.

Something in there just doesn't compute. Is there a REAL difference between these products besides the name and $3.00?

LouisanaJeeper · 05-31-04, 04:57

I dunno. Final Detail is NOT bodyshop safe b/c it adds wax to the paint
Final Inspection (I guess it is called last touch now???) does not add wax or silicones to the finish.

Final detail is going to be better for QD between washings.

Gadfly · 05-31-04, 04:59

LJ: Check the MSDS of Last Touch on the Meguires corporate web site.

rjstaaf · 05-31-04, 05:28

The changes were more than likely done for VOC compliance. As to the price increase that could be partly due to the cost to reformulate the product. Who knows but, I don't think they changed the name just to raise the price.

LouisanaJeeper · 05-31-04, 05:54

I would just call up meg's customer service and talk to them

rjstaaf · 05-31-04, 05:57

Quote:

Originally posted by LouisanaJeeper
I dunno. Final Detail is NOT bodyshop safe b/c it adds wax to the paint
Final Inspection (I guess it is called last touch now???) does not add wax or silicones to the finish.

Final detail is going to be better for QD between washings.

Neither Final Detail or the new Last Touch Spray Detailer are body shop safe.

rjstaaf · 05-31-04, 06:08

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Originally posted by Gadfly
My question: Since Final Detail is claimed to be not bodyshop safe, is it then, that Meguires is remiss by not including the "non bodyshop compatable" components in the MSDS?

Considering that there are no publicly accessible MSDS sheets for the vast majority of the products we use I would say they are not remiss by deciding to keep certain ingredients a TS (Trade Secret) as the MSDS states.

I forwarded this thread to Mike Phillips. He will probably have a better explanation on the differences between Final Detail and Last Touch.

Mosca · 05-31-04, 07:56

I say, it will take me years to go through my gallon of Final Detail, so, oh well.

Tom

Mike Phillips · 06-01-04, 09:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Gadfly
My question: Since Final Detail is claimed to be not bodyshop safe, is it then, that Meguires is remiss by not including the "non bodyshop compatable" components in the MSDS?

If so, what is the real difference between Final Detail and Last Touch? Besides $3.00. Inquiring minds want to know.

Hi Gadfly,

I'll look into this and see if I can answer your questions.

Mike

Gadfly · 06-01-04, 09:20

I can't ask more than that! Thanks for responding. I'm looking forward for Meguires reply.

Ray aka Gadfly

94BlkStang · 06-01-04, 09:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Gadfly
Let me put this another way:

Final Detail is claimed to not be bodyshop safe, supposedly because it contains "silicones." But, no "silicones" are listed on its MSDS.

Last Touch does list "silicones" in its MSDS. But, it costs $3.00 more per gallon.

Something in there just doesn't compute. Is there a REAL difference between these products besides the name and $3.00?

An MSDS only has to list those ingredients that are considered harmful (to people and the environment) and that are greater than 1%. Many components aren't listed on MSDS sheets. Manufacturers take different approaches to listing products, as some will list everything in the product regardless if it is necessary and others choose to list only those that are necessary. The fact of the matter is, Final Detail will soon no longer be available, so it's really irrelevant about the cost difference. As far as difference in product, I would assume it's a slightly different formula as they have revised some of their product line because of more stringent regualtions on the use of certain products. A member on another forum I visit had a chance to use it and said Last Touch appeared to be somewhat different, but worked excellent just the same.