Results of New LS layering experiment (quick answer: it layers!) (Lots of pictures!)

Mosca · 08-26-03, 06:13

Jinx1309 piqued my interest by using LS with a foam applicator and picking up no coloration on his pad; perhaps it was the pad?

So, I have a bottle of NLS, a bottle of OLS, and new foam, terry, and mf applicators, and a red car, and a digital camera, and an hour to kill. What's an Autopian to do, if not experiment in a search for the truth?

The finish is a base coat of #20, topped with #26 and Souv paste.

Picture of the finish to be layered:

Pictures of the pads, before use:

I used each pad in succession, applying a quarter-sized dollop of the product on each pad. I applied the product vigorously; I tried to get it to cut through the previous layers. The product went on very smoothly and silkily, with no indication of cutting or cleaning (just like last time).

The results:

I had another style of mf applicator; it gave the same results:

I didn't bother trying the old LS. I was too excited about getting these results here as quickly as possible. It appears that NLS WILL LAYER!

More experimentation was obviously necessary. My first attempt at layering NLS may very well have been over a faulty application of the previous products.

How does it look? Like a shiny red car, obviously. It looks really nice. It is very smooth, and "harder" to the touch than the paste, not as oily. I like it.

Souveran takes a durability knock here, but protectionwise it's pretty decent. We are mostly concerned with APPEARANCE. The product loses its "pop" in about 3 weeks. But the beading on the Malibu, and the smoothness of the surface, is still pretty decent since July 20th. It's not pulling my eyes out, but it looks very nice and slick, and washes up easily.

SO: LET THE FLOODGATES OPEN! ORDER THE NEW LS! IT IS A TRUE AUTOPIAN PRODUCT!

Tom,
who is always in search of truth.

2wheelsx2 · 08-26-03, 06:20

Cool! Thanks for hunting down the truth, Tom!

BW · 08-26-03, 07:14

Thanks for the testing! Experiments are so interesting. You consider NLS a "layerable" product because there are no visible signs of cutting or cleaning, right?

I'm asking this as there is no definitive answer on whether a wax can be layered or not. I prefer to think, "I've got 4 applications of Souveran," over "4 layers of Souveran." It is my *opinion* that carnaubas are not layerable, as each application doesn't harden, crosslink, and add protection, etc., other than the oil build up.

Whether it layers or not, from what Tom said, Pinnacle has created a LIQUID wax suitable for use as a topper! Yay!

FalconGuy · 08-26-03, 07:21

my own experience, half my free bottle is gone, would agree with your results

this is a really great liquid wax

Mosca · 08-26-03, 07:21

The car is a single stage paint, with no clearcoat. If the NLS "hits red", that means that it removed the previous products.

I mean, I guess it could have stripped the other products and not picked up any pigment, but my experience has been that if it does one it also does the other, i.e., the same action that strips previous products also picks up coloration.

(edit) I agree with your definition of "layering". With carnuba, I think of it as an Afghan that covers the car. One blanket looks great, a second blanket fills the gaps. Any more than that is wasted product, the gaps between molecules are too small to fill.

With polymers, I think, polymer is one type of protection, wax is another. So, I can fill paint pores and imperfactions with #7, top with #20 (yes, you can), and top that with #26. That's a nice look. Now I can top with NLS, too!

Tom

BW · 08-26-03, 07:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Mosca
The car is a single stage paint, with no clearcoat. If the NLS "hits red", that means that it removed the previous products.

I mean, I guess it could have stripped the other products and not picked up any pigment, but my experience has been that if it does one it also does the other, i.e., the same action that strips previous products also picks up coloration.

Gotcha! Tom, I've really enjoyed reading your thoughtful posts lately. In addition to being helpful and informative, they're fun and interesting to read as well!

4DSC · 08-26-03, 09:05

Thanks for doing this experiment!

Very interesting results compared to the old version of LS.

Have you tried it on bare paint yet? That'd be interesting too I think.