Zaino Z1 and Zaino ZFX

JasonC8301 · 06-11-03, 04:46

The facts...

Zaino ZFX will allow you to apply up to 3 coats of ZFX enabled Z2, Z3, or Z5 to a paint surface in a 24 hour time period. The ZFX also replaces the Z1 as a surface prep and bonding/catalyzing agent.

How I use ZFX.
1. Wash car
2. Clay if needed
3. Polish with Makita rotary if needed
4. Follow up with a fine polish and PC
5. Dawn Wash
6. Mix Z2/Z5 with ZFX in +/- 1 and 1/2 ounce batches.
7. Apply zaino Z2/Z5, let haze for 30 minutes and buff off, then Z6.
8. Repeat Step 7 2 more times.

Zaino Z1 is the original (or at least the 4 years I've been into detailing) prep for applying Zaino Z2, Z3, and Z5. You would apply it to the paint surface after all paint prep has been done and let haze, then apply Z2/Z3/Z5 directly over Z1 and let dry to a haze. Then buff off. The disadvantage to this is you can only do one coat in a given 24 hour period.

I have never used Z1 before.

After reading the forums someone prompted me about little difference between Z1 and ZFX in terms of hazing time or application removal. I can't quite pin point/find the thread.

I will test Z1 VS. ZFX in accordance to haze time and ease of removal. I think it was over the price of the Zaino Z1 ($8.95) to Zaino ZFX ($19.95.)

If the price really worth it for the ZFX?

More information on a test car and the actual test to follow (I will most likely use my father's car's hood which is still original paint. Just lots of swirls, a clay and the Makita with some Menzerna IP should handle that.)

I will put regular Z1/Z2 vs. ZFX and Z2. I will apply one coat of each and evaluate shine, slickness, and compare dry times and removal times. Then I will just let the finish be as is and every other week or weather permitting Wash with Z7 and Z6.

stanger99 · 06-11-03, 11:08

How about Z1/Z2 vs. ZFX/Z2 vs. Z2?

Just a suggestion.

JasonC8301 · 06-11-03, 11:25

Hmmm, interesting. Oh Gosh Its going to be split up now...

I'll divide the hood into 4 sections. Z1/Z2, Z2/ZFX, Z2, and on one section will be just left alone after polishing (I will dawn wash the hood though), just bare paint.

Thanks Stanger, turning into the waxtest report with an indepth review of Zaino itself....

any advice geekysteve???

stanger99 · 06-12-03, 09:19

Another thought:
If you will be observing water beading on a regular basis(dont know if you are going to test durability or not), be careful with the Z6. You may not know if the beading is from the original application or the Z6. Probably more random thoughts to follow

luvthong · 06-12-03, 12:05

how to apply Z-2 so that it's very thin and even?

repvette · 06-12-03, 12:39

I have used both Z1/Z5 or Z2 or ZFX/Z5 or Z2. I did not notice any difference in shine or how long it lasts. ZFX allows you do to several coats quickly - That's all. I didn't like screwing around mixing the stuff in little bottles. Just my thoughts -

JasonC8301 · 06-12-03, 01:12

Yeah the mixing can be a PIA and ends up with some wasted product but I think 3 coats in a day is worth it.

I am going to tweak my test and work it because I have until next Wednesday. I will test durability because my test subject sits outside 24/7 and rarely gets washed.

luvthong
I just washed the silver Caravan with Z7, applied a new coat of Z2, removed, and Z6'd it. I used 1/4 of an ounce maybe less of an ounce, very small amount of product. I was comparing my two 2 ounce bottles of the Z and both were filled up to the same level (about an ounce and 1/2.) So I would say I used 1/4 of an ounce as a good ballpark on this caravan (which is by no means small in terms of amount of paint to cover.)

To get such a thin coat, I spray two full sprays of Z6 into the foam applicator pad (a 4 inch disk) and apply a dime sized amount of Z onto the center pad. I then apply (this covers an entire door panel of hood of the caravan which is not huge.) For the next panel apply a smaller than dime size amount, maybe the size of a pea amount onto another section of the pad. At the end my pad is pretty much loaded with polish on the entire pad surface area. After every other panel I put a small 1/4 spray of Z6 onto the foam.

Heres is the caravan....

Avalanche · 06-12-03, 02:21

I like to use Z1, especially on the first coat becuase it contains Aliphatic hydrocabons. This is a powerful "cutting agent" and if I'm not mistaken is a strong petrolem solvent. This insures any oils on the surface are broken down and insure a clean oil/grease free surface for the Z. Every few cotas I'll reapply the Z1.

JasonC8301 · 06-12-03, 02:30

The ZFX also contains aliphatic hydrocarbons....

stanger99 · 06-12-03, 11:30

Quote:

Originally posted by repvette
I have used both Z1/Z5 or Z2 or ZFX/Z5 or Z2. I did not notice any difference in shine or how long it lasts. ZFX allows you do to several coats quickly - That's all. I didn't like screwing around mixing the stuff in little bottles. Just my thoughts -

Very, very interesting.

JasonC8301 · 06-13-03, 07:50

Ok, going to add the trunk to the test. On one side of the trunk, Z2/ZFX (since I'm going to mix some anyway) and the other side Klasse AIO, one coat of SG, and then a coat of Z2.

Any ideas if this would work??

Dr. Jones gave me the idea for this test....

EDIT: Heres the hood (OEM paint, the fenders are not) and the trunk is in the same condition...

thom · 06-13-03, 08:37

i hope it works that is klasse and then z-2
will you wait 24hrs for the sg to cure?
good luck