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Old 02-03-03, 08:01   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Diamondite - Polymer Glass System

Diamondite (www.diamondite.com)The reason I wanted to try this product is two-fold. A ultra detailed car is not complete unless the glass sparkles.A driving environment is not completely safe unless visibility is maximized. Unfortunately, the glass of our cars are usually only partially detailed. This task is difficult and sometimes apparently unrewarding and required multiple unrelated products not meant specifically for glass. A dirty windshield, which appeared flawless in the garage or driveway, is normally discovered when driving. Glass cleaner and wipe/buff and we are done in most cases. I have used products like Barkeeper's Friend Cleanser ( very mild abrasive), various glass cleaners and even Zaino (Z2/5 and Z6) on glass to add a little more gloss. Not one of these products were specifically designed for glass surfaces. Diamondite is. But wait, we spend hours maximizing the gloss and protection of our paint finishes. Why not maximize the clarity and sparkle of the potentially most reflective item on our cars with a product designed to do this? I did a web search for glass treatments and came across Diamondite. A 3-step deep cleaner ( foam clay), surface cleaner and protectant. After reading I was intrigued with the "foam" claying and "polymer" protectant sealing products. The foam claying procedure is unique in that it functions by removing ( extracting) grime from the deepest valleys of a glass surface. Yes, we have all used normal clay to do this very same function but this product works by getting down to the bottom of the deepest crevises by not only attaching to but also emulisifing the grime. The Diamondite Shield delivers a protective polymer layer was intriguing because it was made specifically to "bond" to glass and also fill-in partially the glass surface's imperfections while increasing the glass's clarity and optics. Wow. Many products claim the world but this one appeared too good to not give a try. Let's face it. We ultra detail our cars but the only portion of the vehicle we are able to observe and enjoy while driving is the glass. There is nothing better than seeing or driving a car with perfectly detailed glass.
When I received my Diamondite Kit I was very excited. It's winter the garage queen was hiberating, and the daily driver is suffering the full force of abnormal ( for Virginia) winter weather. As I have stated in the past I try new or previously unknown items to me in order to pass the time during the weather. I read the Diamondite directions and set out to do a comparison detailing experiment. I cleaned the entire windshield with a solution of 70% isopropyl alcohol. This was done to remove any Zaino residual that I have previous used to detail this glass. I followed with a auto glass cleaner (SuperShine) and buffed dry. The windshield appeared clean and glossy. At this point I started the Diamondite procedure on one half of the windshield. Pre-cleaned with their glass cleaner. No perceivable difference between the two sides. Next I applied some of the clay foam to the "scrubbie" and started to work it into the glass. This step is the most work intensive and is stated such in the directions. The actions are similiar to working in a hand polish except that one is using a random circular motion. As one works the foam clay it is apparant an enhanced smoothness starts to develop. The more you work clay in the more rewarding the work. I must admit at first this seemed like a lot of work. Then I realized that I have become spoiled by the PC, P21S, GEPC, Souveran, Zaino, Blackfire, Microfibers, Quick detailers etc.. At the same time I realized that I was actually "ultra detailing" my windshield with a product made just for this portion of my car. I can now work my windshield like I do with the paint... maximize its gloss ( foam clay) and protect with a polymer protectant.I continued to work in the foam clay until one-half of the windshield was done. The more one works the clay residual decreases and the smoothness of the glass increases. I used MF's for all my wiping and buffing steps. I did a trial with my now rarely used cotton towel but they did not perform as efficiently. After wiping off all the foam clay I re-cleaned the surface with the glass cleaner provided in the kit per direction. So far very little product used. At this point there is an obvious difference between the clayed half and the original glass. The untouched side had a now very obvious haze and did not feel as smooth.Very similiar to the results one received after claying paint.I admit my arm was somewhat tired. Not fatiqued because of the difficulty of the task but more from not performing this repetitive motion with pressure since obtaining the services of a PC.. I am excited now but also a little nervous... time for the final step - Protectant. This is the easiest step. Spray on a allow to dry for 5-10 minutes ( I allowed 30 minutes - time for a Bud reward). I buffed off the resultant haze with first a 100% cotton towel and than a MF final buff. Now this is where reading the directions completely is important. After removing the dried protectant in order activated the polymer bonding reaction one must wipe down area with a damp cloth and than follow-up with a final wipe (MF). WOW!! New glass compared with the control untouched side. Effort definitely rewarded. . Will this continue after I get a chance to pull outside. This will be the final exam. Is there a glare, increased clarity, unevenness in clarity and water beading ( sign of protection) when washing this vehicle ( Z28 never driven in bad weather). With the obvious difference in appearance of the two sides and the excitment generated by the first half's results I proceeded to do the other side. After both sides were completed I proceeded to apply a second coat of protectant to insure complete coverage. Total time spent doing the 3-step process was about 45 minutes - 1 hour. The actual time spend was about 1.5 hours which included the Bud break. Besides the excellent initial results was the pleasure of the task - detailing the exterior of my windshield and the lack of messing up adjacent areas of the car. I did drape adjacent area with cotton towels but the vehicle was as dust-free as prior to this test. We have all done the PC glass polishing method. Call me sick, addicted, lacking of a life but I actually enjoyed this activity.
After this latest snow clears I will pull the daily driver in and apply.Now that I have the procedure learned and know what work is required I am looking forward to it. This vehicle will be more of a challenge for Diamondite because of its higher amount of exposure to all types of weather and environmental assaults. Again I will do a split windshield comparison similiar to the one I just described. I can not wait. I will report back on this test.
Sorry for being so long winded but I believe this is a type of product that Autopian's would find extremely interesting.
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Please let us know , sounds like a whole lot of work
 
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Please let us know , sounds like a whole lot of work
I would say no more so if not less than PC'ing glass with a polish and adding a protective coating. Three steps: Clean, Clay and Protectant application. No surrounding mess to clean up ( spray from PC ). The results are rewarding and now my windshield appears as detailed as the car's paint finish. 1 -2 times a years is not a problem.
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Hey blkZ28Conv -- you didn't happen to take any pics, did you? This stuff does sound interesting -- I'd like to see pics of the half-windshield treatment (and the differences in protection). Hmm, sounds like a good test to me!
 
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Sorry no before and after pixs. But what I will do is try taking some when I do the Lexus. With that stated I am not a fan of pixs for denoting a change or results of automotive products. So many variables involved that pictures can be deceiving or not representative of the true results.
I am a true detailing hobbist. I enjoy focusing on a portion of a vehicle and getting down to the "Q-tip" level of detailing. As I stated before I was looking for a product that was targeted for automotive glass detailing.
Here are 2 pixs of the final apppearance with Quik Shine QD. I drove the Z28 today because it's going to be 70* and to test the dust attraction of the Souveran I also applied this weekend.
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Sorry no before and after pixs. But what I will do is try taking some when I do the Lexus. With that stated I am not a fan of pixs for denoting a change or results of automotive products. So many variables involved that pictures can be deceiving or not representative of the true results...
I agree, the usual before and after pix are not the greatest for demonstrating results. But, since you said you were going to do the split windshield thing again, a pic of that would be great. No doubts about differences in lighting, focus, etc.
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How long and how many applications can you get out of the package? Preciate it!
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And also, does it repel fog (can I use it inside the car?)

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Think I've seen a review of this product from the past on this board.

I actually am close to where they are located but have never gotten around to going to visit them. Maybe I'll try to find time to do that during the week one day.
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Nice review!

I was impressed with this product as well.

No not a miracle, but a solid performing product and the only one of its kind i know of.

Goes a long way in removing hard water spots.
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How long and how many applications can you get out of the package? Preciate it!
I can only guess, but the amount used of the clay foam and sealant did not appreciably decrease the weight of their containers. I feel that a twice a year application on two cars would last 4 - 6 rounds. Of course this is dependent on factors including wiper usage and mileage driven ( air and mechanical friction wear).
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I believe this is a strictly exterior glass treatment. You could always ask Diamondite. I believe most vehicles have a protective coating on the interior and the use of the clay foam would be harmful to this coating. I have found over the years the best defense of interior fogging is keeping the interior glass as clean as possible.

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Thanks for the compliment This was a fun and rewarding winter detailing exercise.
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