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01-30-03, 09:32
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 406 | P21S vs Pinnacle Paste Glaz I tried P21S this evening on my wife's white Accord. The Accord has a layer of AIO that was applied about 2 weeks ago. After washing the car, I decided to try out P21S since I have been using Paste Glaz as a topper on my Passat, I was curious about P21S. It was easy to apply, a little less oily that Paste Glaz, however P21S required a bit more effort to remove with a MF towel that Paste Glaz does. I found some smears after using an MF to remove the P21S and used Quik Shine to remove the smearing. In the morning light tomorrow, I will see how the P21S looks. As far as ease of use, I prefer Paste Glaz but if the P21S lasts longer, that will be the final word. Since the car is white, I'm not sure that P21S will look much different from Paste Glaz.
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01-30-03, 09:50
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Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: -Salt Lake City- Former Deputy Dawg Posts: 6,022 | I've found that PPG gives more of a glow to light colored cars. P21S doesn't do much in the glow department for my light cars. That would be the only difference. That's ok though. Just top your P21S with some PPG.  The best of both worlds.
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01-31-03, 05:54
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Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 101 | Did you apply P21S to the whole car,then start buffing off? Or did you do one body panel at a time? The first time I used S100 (suposedly the same), I did the whole car, then tried to remove it. It was a PITA. Then I read more on here and I was suppsoed to do smaller section and wipe it up right away. The next time I used S100 it was the easiest product I have ever used. | |
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01-31-03, 06:07
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Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maitland, Florida Posts: 113 | I've used both and feel the PPG leaves an oily surface which captures more dust than S100. Both give an excellent shine with a slight edge to S100 for my metallic silver car.
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01-31-03, 09:05
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 406 | Quote: Originally posted by Jngrbrdman I've found that PPG gives more of a glow to light colored cars. P21S doesn't do much in the glow department for my light cars. That would be the only difference. That's ok though. Just top your P21S with some PPG. The best of both worlds. | Thanks for the tip Jngrbrdman, I will try that! 
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01-31-03, 09:09
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 406 | Quote: Originally posted by APT Did you apply P21S to the whole car,then start buffing off? Or did you do one body panel at a time?
Nope, one panel at a time, (a door, then remove, half the hood, then remove, etc)
The first time I used S100 (suposedly the same), I did the whole car, then tried to remove it. It was a PITA. Then I read more on here and I was suppsoed to do smaller section and wipe it up right away. The next time I used S100 it was the easiest product I have ever used. | Did you ever try Pinnacel Paste Glaz? It is a little easier to remove, not much.
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01-31-03, 10:43
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Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 101 | Quote: Originally posted by rad21 Did you ever try Pinnacel Paste Glaz? It is a little easier to remove, not much. | No I have not. I just find it hard to believe there is something easier to apply/remove than S100/P21S when done in small areas. I tohught maybe you waited longer for it to haze like many waxes do. Wipe on with the foam applicator provided, and wipe off with a microfiber towel.
But if Pinnicle is even easier, great! | |
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01-31-03, 10:54
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 2,957 | I've tried PPG a long time ago and it really does seem a tad easier to use than P21S and Souveran. Also, it's got an amazing scent to it, nicer than the almighty Souveran scent. PPG is pure carnauba-therapy!  | |
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01-31-03, 12:58
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 406 | As a follow up to my original post, I used Paste Glaz on my Passat today and I must admit for metallic silver paint, Paste Glaz is awesome. Maybe P21S is better for dark color paint but since we have a white and a Silver vehicle, Paste Glaz will be my choice for a "premium" carnauba. It makes the paint glow, I can't explain it any other way.
BTW, CMA has Paste Glaz on sale for $24.95. IMHO, if you have a silver, light color metallic or white car, you gotta try it. 
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03-06-03, 08:17
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Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 | ok thats it im getting PPG, i curently use S100 which i love, but am dying to try PPG, easier to remove, kinda hard to believe, but from what ive read its AMAZING on light colored cars  its on sale now at the pinn web site, $21.95 vs $24.95 at properautocare's site.
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03-07-03, 08:09
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Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 406 | Quote: Originally posted by 4DR Turbo ok thats it im getting PPG, i curently use S100 which i love, but am dying to try PPG, easier to remove, kinda hard to believe, but from what ive read its AMAZING on light colored cars its on sale now at the pinn web site, $21.95 vs $24.95 at properautocare's site. | On my Silver Passat, I prefer the look of PPG to P21S/S100. They are both easy to remove. On my wifes Accord, the paint is not in as good condition as my Passat (wonder why?) but the P21S took more effort to remove that PPG but I kinda like P21S on the White Accord.
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04-06-03, 10:04
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Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NEW ORLEANS Posts: 1,557 | What's the difference (how do they compare) between PPG and LS and PS?
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