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Old 10-12-02, 01:13   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down S100 Detail & Wax

Long time listener, first time caller...you know the routine.

Anyway, while picking up another jar of S100 wax I decided to pick up their Detail & Wax product and give it a shot. Its advertised as adding a finishing touch to a wash or to act almost as a waterless wash by removing road grime, rain film, etc. between washes.

I have to say that I don't see the value in this particular product. First off, it's delivered in an aerosol spray can which is kind of annoying, but probably necessary given the consistency of the product. When you spray it on it's kind of thick. It's seems to be a very dense and thin foam, not like some wheel cleaner foams or shaving cream, the best way I could describe it is that it sprays almost like that fake snow spray that people used to use on windows at Christmas time. The next step is to wipe/buff the product out. There is quite a bit of drag and it actually took some effort to buff it out. It's nothing like buffing out S100 wax.

I was using this on a 3 day old s100 wax job and the vehicle was still very clean. Even though it's advertised as being able to take road grime off between washes, I would really hesitate to use this on a vehicle that even just had light dust on it. I think you would be asking for swirls given the amount of drag/effort involved and there's no slickness like you get with a QD. As mentioned previously, the other advertised use is after a wash to give a final touch or shine. Here again, I didn't find any value. Once I buffed the product out there was no increase in wettness of the look or brightness/clarity in the shine. You could possibly use it to spot wax after using a harsh cleaner when removing bugs, tar, etc. but the S100 paste wax is honestly easier to apply and remove than this stuff.

I'm disappointed because I was hoping that this would be more like a QD. Given that it's too hard to remove to be used as a spot detailer and harder to use for spot waxing than the S100 paste wax, I can't find any reason to keep it in my arsenal. Oh well, all in the name of science!

I would be interested to hear from others who have used this product, particularly if you've found a good use for it that I have overlooked. I also want to thank ScottWax for his great S100 wax pictures. Those pictures were the sole reason that I started using S100 to begin with.
 
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Old 10-13-02, 12:36   #2 (permalink)
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Scottwax recently gave a review of a different S100 product. Spray on hose off. A cleaner which he said was pretty good.
That was the S100 Total Cycle Cleaner. Good stuff! Spray it on a motorcycle and hose off. Dry. Cleans the paint, leather, chrome and alloy. You have to rinse it completely, and you can tell because when you run your finger across the bike, it squeaks like a clean dish. Works great on whitewall/raised white letters on tires...I wouldn't buy it just for that purpose, but I've got a customer with those Pirelli tires with the thin yellow strip and 1" wide whitewall on his wifes Cadillac DTS. Just thought I would try it out and it got both the white and yellow strips amazingly clean!

xyzzy-Glad I could point you in the right direction for your waxing needs. The thread I made about S100 in the show and shine forum I mod on another site had nearly 4000 views and 130+ replies, including people who went out the next day, used S100, took pics and posted them. It's nice to see that not only did people take your advice, but were subsequently glad they did.
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I've used s100 ever since I saw Scottwax's pictures of the blue BMW. Scottwax what site do you mod?
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I've used s100 ever since I saw Scottwax's pictures of the blue BMW. Scottwax what site do you mod?
The show and shine forum on http://forums.off-topic.net and Scott's Detailing Forum at http://board.hondasociety.com/forumd...?s=&forumid=36

I used to mod the detailing forum on Superhonda.com, but when the webmaster of that board had a falling out with another moderator, it kind of spread out to all of us moderators and we all ended up at Hondasociety.com.
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Thanx. I'll check out the sites.
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Is the S100 Total Cycle Wash basically the same product as the citrus degreaser P21S Total Auto Wash?
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Re: S100 Detail & Wax

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I'm disappointed because I was hoping that this would be more like a QD. Given that it's too hard to remove to be used as a spot detailer and harder to use for spot waxing than the S100 paste wax, I can't find any reason to keep it in my arsenal. Oh well, all in the name of science!

I would be interested to hear from others who have used this product, particularly if you've found a good use for it that I have overlooked. I also want to thank ScottWax for his great S100 wax pictures. Those pictures were the sole reason that I started using S100 to begin with.

My experience with this product was also very,very disappointing. Very difficult to work with, greasy, and of no value as a QD. This product should be sold as a spray wax and a poor one at that.
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