Menzerna clarification

[paradigm]

hi everyone...i've been off the boards for quite a while, but hoping to be more active again. one thing i'm looking to do is replace my near-empty Menzerna Final Finish II bottle of awesomeness...

i searched through and found quite the history for the Menzerna products...especially the FFII.

basically, i would just like the exact same product, but if it's not available, what is most comparable? i like FFII for it's gloss and ease of use (little dusting, easy to wipe away).

looks like the history is:

Final Finish II --> Micro Polish PO87MC ...then phased out

and...

Final Polish FF-3000 PO85U is the current product equivalent. (?)


so is FF-3000 the closest replacement or do i need to go to the Super Finish "Nano" SF-4000 to keep the same cut/finish and dusting qualities?

thanks for any help!

[TOGWT]

1. Menzerna GMBH EU Abrasive Levels and Reference Numbers

• FG 500 – Fast Gloss (POS500): Cut 10/10: Gloss 5/10 – 22930 ) not sold in the US, due to VOC regulations
• PG 1000 – Power Gloss (POS34) Cut 8/10: Gloss 3/10 -22984
• IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (PO91L) Cut 7/10: Gloss 6/10 - 22106
• PF 2500 – Power Finish (PO203) Cut 6/10: Gloss 8/10 - 22828
• FF 3000 – Final Finish (PO85U) Cut 5/10: Gloss 9/10 - 22029
• SF 4000 – Super Finish (PO106FA) Cut 5/10: Gloss 10/10 - 22911
• SW - Sealing Wax (PO60) Cut 2/10: Gloss 10/10 – 22870

Menzerna GMBH, EU polishes have slightly different formulations and cut levels compared to the Menzerna US versions

2. Menzerna USA Abrasive Levels and Reference Numbers

• PG 1000 – Power Gloss Compound (S34A) Cut: 5/5.0 - Gloss: 1.5/ 5.0
• SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (PO83)
• IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (PO91E) Cut 7/10: Gloss 6/
• PF 2500 – Power Finish Polish (PO203) Cut:3.5/5.0 – Gloss; 3.5/5.0
• FF 3000 – Final Finish Polish (PO85U) Cut 5/10: Gloss 9/10
• SF 4000 – Super Finish Polish (PO106FA) Cut:2.5/5.0 – Gloss; 5/5.0
• SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish (PO85RD) Cut:3.5/5.0 – Gloss; 5/5.0

[paradigm]

thank you for the additional info. i was looking over the chart on autogeek, so the extra reference is great to compare with. since the original product is gone and was rated at cut 2/5 and gloss 4.5/5, that'll point me to the SF-4000. i'm hoping the SF-4000 has the same workability (dusting/easy wipe-off) as the FFII.

[porta]

Go for the PO85RD(SF4500) it would be the closest to PO87MC; PO106FA(SF4000) is more abrasive.

[RaskyR1]

thank you for the additional info. i was looking over the chart on autogeek, so the extra reference is great to compare with. since the original product is gone and was rated at cut 2/5 and gloss 4.5/5, that'll point me to the SF-4000. i'm hoping the SF-4000 has the same workability (dusting/easy wipe-off) as the FFII.

I do not find SF-4000/4500 to have the same workability as FFII. They dust more and require a little more effort to remove IMO, but they do work well.

[paradigm]

PO85RD / SF-4500 must be the one to try. i have PO85U (although it is from several years ago, if that matters) and i never cared for it much. it was much less friendly to work with compard to FFII.

i did find PO87MC / FFII in autopia's store, but it's a full gallon. it does say "Final Finish II" as well on the label, but i would hate to have a gallon sitting around. maybe i'll try to find someone to split it with...