Has UPGP fallen out of favor? - Page 4

Dsoto87 · 10-28-09, 03:46

Sorry danforz if I came off the wrong way. I too am a big UPGP user and just as some defend zaino till no end I guess I defend UPGP the same way.

wannafbody · 10-28-09, 03:54

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Originally Posted by Danforz

A few things. Firstly, my UPGP arrived last week. Manufactured this year. Next, I have had solidifying in my previous UPGP sample over the last two years (thus the reason I trashed it and bought a new one). But that may be due to heat exposure. Next, yes, there were some threads that certain retailers may have shipped out older batches of this stuff. Finally, didn't Dave just come out with HD?

There were numerous posts of the detailer spray having UFO's. I traded for some Ultima tire shine. The first time I used it on hard plastic trim and it was fantastic and long lasting. After several months I tried it again and found it less effective. As time went on the product began to gel in the bottom of the bottle and became difficult to apply. Needless to say, I won't be buying a bottle.

Dsoto87 · 10-28-09, 04:08

Well that sucks, thanks for sharing your experience.

Your post is actually the first Ive read about that. To be honest Im not really interested in any of the other Ultima products as they seem to be over priced. Did it last though? Was it any better than any other trim shine?

So has anyone seen this happen with some of the older bottles of the PGP? Kinda makes me weary about holding on to these 12oz bottles. Makes me think I should just buy it when I need it.

Rob Tomlin · 10-28-09, 04:48

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

Why should it matter where a product is sold?

You're kidding, right?

If you can't get a product where you live, how is it relevant?

David Fermani · 10-28-09, 05:11

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

You're kidding, right?

If you can't get a product where you live, how is it relevant?

No. Why isn't relavant?

Last time I checked, packages can be sent all over the world and many of our members are from all over too. Why limit yourself to just US products? Doesn't make sense?

Rob Tomlin · 10-28-09, 05:34

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

No. Why isn't relavant?

Last time I checked, packages can be sent all over the world and many of our members are from all over too. Why limit yourself to just US products? Doesn't make sense?

Obviously if that is the case, what you are saying makes sense.

I read it as saying that those were products that could not be obtained by the OP.

In either event, I don't really understand the point of any of it anyway.

wannafbody · 10-28-09, 08:09

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Originally Posted by Dsoto87

Well that sucks, thanks for sharing your experience.

Your post is actually the first Ive read about that. To be honest Im not really interested in any of the other Ultima products as they seem to be over priced. Did it last though? Was it any better than any other trim shine?

So has anyone seen this happen with some of the older bottles of the PGP? Kinda makes me weary about holding on to these 12oz bottles. Makes me think I should just buy it when I need it.

I didn't use Ultima tire and trim on tires. I only used it on plastic trim and it worked well and was long lasting but I did notice something troubling-it seems to me as if it has strong solvents.

Dsoto87 · 10-28-09, 09:02

You wouldnt happen to be able to compare it to say black wow or some other "long lasting" trim shine would you?

Im still looking for something good and long lasting. Currently, on my well maintained trim, UPGP works fine but im always looking for something better.

BTW, how did you come to the conclusion about the solvents? Smell? Did it remove old wax or something?

tmg19103 · 10-29-09, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Dsoto87

Well that sucks, thanks for sharing your experience.

Your post is actually the first Ive read about that. To be honest Im not really interested in any of the other Ultima products as they seem to be over priced. Did it last though? Was it any better than any other trim shine?

So has anyone seen this happen with some of the older bottles of the PGP? Kinda makes me weary about holding on to these 12oz bottles. Makes me think I should just buy it when I need it.

I now seal mine in an air tight zip lock bag. Not sure if it will help, but hoping so. I found it holds up about a year without putting it in a bag. I just got a 12 oz. with a manfuacturer date of 7/09 and am now trying the zip lock method to see how that works.

tmg19103 · 10-29-09, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Dsoto87

You wouldnt happen to be able to compare it to say black wow or some other "long lasting" trim shine would you?

Im still looking for something good and long lasting. Currently, on my well maintained trim, UPGP works fine but im always looking for something better.

BTW, how did you come to the conclusion about the solvents? Smell? Did it remove old wax or something?

UTTGP is the best, longest lasting trim protector around in my experience. No streaking when it rains, two coats will last 6 months.

What you need is trim that is in good shape, though, because it does not stain or blacken the trim. It just maintains its original appearance.

Black Wow and Back to Black are stains that are best for trim that is really oxidized and white or faded.

The question is - how will UTTGP work over BW or BTB? Probably not well, but who knows until someone tries.

EDIT: quoted the wrong post above, but you all get the drift. As for solvents, I apply it carefully as it will remove wax around the trim but it does not seem to remove UPGP.

It lasts 6 months or so, and I strip my car down and start from scratch every 6 months, so that is when I put the UTTGP on.

wannafbody · 10-29-09, 03:20

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Originally Posted by Dsoto87

You wouldnt happen to be able to compare it to say black wow or some other "long lasting" trim shine would you?

Im still looking for something good and long lasting. Currently, on my well maintained trim, UPGP works fine but im always looking for something better.

BTW, how did you come to the conclusion about the solvents? Smell? Did it remove old wax or something?

I never used black Wow. The reason I believe that it has strong solvents is because when I used it on hard black plastic it turned the applicator totally black.

bobrobert · 10-30-09, 07:01

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

I never used black Wow. The reason I believe that it has strong solvents is because when I used it on hard black plastic it turned the applicator totally black.

Remember BW is not just a protectant. It is a cleaner which is designed to remove wax from black plastic trim while also providing long lasting protection. I use BW on my Mini which has a lot of textured plastic trim and it works well, looks good and lasts a long time. Not the easiest trim cleaner/protectant to use but I believe it's worth the little extra work.

The only "problem" I've found is that it can attract dust and lint after you apply it to the trim. However this is totally mitigated after the first washing. If you let BW "soak" into the plastic trim, rather than wiping it off after application it seems to enhance its durability.