Which WOWA Sealant: UPGP, OS, Z-CS, JW Trigger, other? - Page 5

yakky · 10-29-09, 10:49

After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.

Rob Tomlin · 10-29-09, 12:48

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Originally Posted by yakky

After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.

Completely disagree that UPGP "dulls" the look of the paint.

Danforz · 10-29-09, 02:22

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Completely disagree that UPGP "dulls" the look of the paint.

Agreed. I used UPGP on my Space Gray BMW (Think the classic BMW gray, a bit darker with flake) and the flake popped when looked at directly.

tmg19103 · 10-29-09, 02:44

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Originally Posted by yakky

After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.

An old bottle of UPGP has given me a dull look. The key is a newer bottle that you know is new from the date stamp on the bottom.

As I posted on another thread on UPGP, I am now keeping it in an air tight zip lock when not being used to see if that works.

A bottle seems to be good for about a year. After that it does give a kind of dull look and does not have the appearance of another layer of clearcoat.

yakky · 10-29-09, 04:47

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Originally Posted by tmg19103

An old bottle of UPGP has given me a dull look. The key is a newer bottle that you know is new from the date stamp on the bottom.

As I posted on another thread on UPGP, I am now keeping it in an air tight zip lock when not being used to see if that works.

A bottle seems to be good for about a year. After that it does give a kind of dull look and does not have the appearance of another layer of clearcoat.

Damn, I guess that is my problem, I got it from Autogeek and its over a year old. The UPGP doesn't look clear in the bottle, its almost milky, but there are no solids or anything. QD'ing gives me my shine back.

Bence · 10-29-09, 04:50

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Originally Posted by yakky

After doing a few cars with each, it seems to me that UPGP looks great at greater angles, but looking straight at the paint, it almost dulls it? I don't have that issue with the Optiseal. Optiseal doesn't have the candy look.

Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.

My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.

yakky · 10-29-09, 04:59

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Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.

My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.

Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.

Danforz · 10-29-09, 05:05

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Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.

I wonder if we can get Dave to chime in on this?

tmg19103 · 10-29-09, 06:07

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Yep, that exactly what I'm seeing. I get the same with DWG or not. In fact I noticed it muted DWG after applying. I used OID on top and the bling was back. Maybe we have an older batch? Mine is dated from 08.

My experience with DWG is that it only looks really good if applied with a buffer.

By hand, on my jet black, I find DWG looks kind of dull.

New bottle of UPGP with three coats given 24 hours each to cure over DWG applied with a PC is an amazing look on my jet black - and it lasts and lasts.

Rob Tomlin · 10-29-09, 06:31

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My experience with DWG is that it only looks really good if applied with a buffer.

By hand, on my jet black, I find DWG looks kind of dull.

That's my experience as well.

Rob Tomlin · 10-29-09, 06:34

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Originally Posted by Bence

Yakky, that's how I perceive the UPGP too. It looks wonderful when viewed from flatter angles yet absolutely nothing special when the angle is close to 90 degrees. And water clings to it - I managed to open my trunk and 80% of the beads stay put.

My OOS though gives a consistent "it's there" look no matter what the angles are.

That's very strange, because we are on the same page 90% of the time. If anything, to me, the UPGP has a more solid "it's there" look to it, even from looking straight at it, compared to OS.

Am I just in the "honeymoon stage" since my UPGP was applied 5-6 days ago?

Dsoto87 · 10-29-09, 06:41

Hey yakky did you transfer the UPGP to another bottle? I cant even tell how mine looks since the bottle is so dark.

BTW, if you did transfer it that might have had an effect on it. When I was having some issues with OS, I suggested transferring the product to another bottle and DrG said it would actually be detrimental to the product.