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Old 07-02-09, 05:17   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

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i like these threads there was one before that some guy did this with a truck. ill be checking back.
I think there's another one on sealants somewhere. Great thread.

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Old 07-03-09, 09:30   #14 (permalink)
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

Thanks for all the comments guys

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I think this is a great idea, and certainly appreciate the results of the experiment.

Though, being as cynical as I am, I feel the need to rain on the parade just a little.

First, I think the seven panels along the top of the bumper (bottom of the picture) have an unfair advantage since they are the largest, flattest, and most uniformly shaped panels.

Second, while there are some consitencies in the choices made (slickest, best looking) there is already enough variety in the answers to prove that there can never be a definitive answer to this best LSP question. If you got 47 out of 50 people to pick the same one as "best looking" then you might be on to something.

Finally, there are other variables that affect my choice of LSP that AREN'T included in your study. First of all, some of the LSP's you used specify that they are best suited for dark colors. So I don't think that NB and Souveran are really getting a fair shot in this contest. Another missing factor is the ease of application and removal. This is particularly important for the pros whose time = money.

And while I'm anxious to see the results of your durability and beading tests, I will still have my reservations about them. Testing durability in July in Orlando, is COMPLETELY different than testing it in January in New Hampshire.

Finally, testing wax on a removed bumper is probably going to yield entirely different results than testing it on the hood of a daily driver that sees tree sap, bird poop, and road debris flying into it at 60mph on a daily basis.

Other than that though, it's a pretty good test. (That's not sarcastic. Truly this is good stuff to know)
As far as this test goes, I didnt intend for it to be a scientific test, I just wanted to compare the different LSP's I had available to me. I do agree that the curved panels do somewhat skew the test but the bumper was the only painted panel I had available, I obviously would have prefered to use a hood or the side of an RV but I didnt have that available to me.

We took some video of the bumper tonight while spraying it down with water, I'll try to get that video up within the next couple of hours. The weather has been so bad out, I havnt had the oppertunity to take a sunlight pic, but I will get that asap. The bumper is now outside on my back deck where it is exposed to the sun and rain. I will check it every week or so to see if there is any deterioration in the water beading performance.
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Old 07-03-09, 09:56   #15 (permalink)
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

Here is the list and placement of each LSP.

1. Ultima PGP
2. Poorboys Natty's Blue
3. P21S 100%
4. S100
5. Dodo Juice Supernatural
6. Wolfgang Sealant 3.0
7. Optimum Optiseal
8. Pinnacle Souveran
9. Collinite 845
10. Megs NXT2.0
11. Klasse SG
12. Pinnacle XMT 360
13. Megs #26
14. Menzerna APO 60
15. Klasse AIO
16. Poorboys EX-P
17. Pinnacle Liquid Souveran
18. Control




I'm the buddy that helped, in case you're wondering. I'm also the "experienced" opinion, as well as the one that removed the LSPs from the bumper.

Since this was done a couple nights ago, I can't really remember which were harder/easier to remove. Granted, with the size of the panels, they might have all seemed easy to remove, when they could be a PITA on larger panels.

I do wish we could have done this on a bigger test panel. Maybe one of these days, we'll get a huge hood and do a proper test
 
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Old 07-22-09, 05:41   #16 (permalink)
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

Any more detailed pics of the finish? Hard to "see" the differences in that shot. I've been using NXT 2.0 for a while now but I'm always in the market for a new / better looking sealant.
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

Is he going to update this or what? lol
 
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Re: 17 LSP's compared....

Hey, not a statistically valid study not even a great experiment, but good info none the less. It would be interesting to take a poll with some experienced detailers and see (given that they have used at least several of the products) how they view the rankings. I can see a "trend", if you will, given the many opinions I've solicited in the past few weeks.

Keep sending out the comparo-info. It's decent practical "data".

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