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06-13-09, 06:39
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U Bring It - I Bling It
David Fermani is offline
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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I've had other APC's do damage that OPC didn't on the same panel, so the question is not what it does, but what is doesn't do. (jack up trim, and on some surfaces like tires it will get a ton off after you already did APC)
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I think we do need to know about what it can do. I don't have problems with my current APC damaging trim, but I use a dedicated cleaner for tires and one (solvent) for tar, and another (solvent) for overspray. Can this product replace the need for several different products in my arsenal? From the looks of Scottwax's recent thread this product seems like a very strong and effective cleaner. It's only a bonus if it's safe too. How does it work on protein stains and carpet/fabric/glass/rail dust?
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06-13-09, 07:50
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
It may have just been the APC+, or that I was doing it wrong, but I used APC+ on tires and when I was scrubbing it in, I could see some brake dust and grime coming off and then rinsed it off. Looked nice and black wet, I just let the tires air dry and they came out orangy like the color of the APC, wasn't happy about that.
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06-13-09, 07:56
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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It may have just been the APC+, or that I was doing it wrong, but I used APC+ on tires and when I was scrubbing it in, I could see some brake dust and grime coming off and then rinsed it off. Looked nice and black wet, I just let the tires air dry and they came out orangy like the color of the APC, wasn't happy about that.
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ew, orange tires huh?
that's definitely not good
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06-13-09, 02:39
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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Now I'm confused? Why can't it all together replace it? Can't it do just as much as a normal APC, but even more? If not, please explain......
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sorry i was unclear. It can replace your old APC. I, however, am a cheap ******* and don't wanna use my $35 per gallon stuff on just everything (personal choice). I get a very good, non caustic APC off the local detail truck for $49/5 gallons. So if you are trying to reduce your inventory and money is no object, rest assured that OPC will do everything your APC does and more. The real test isn't my testimonial, but just buy a sample and try it on everything for yourself. I mean if you are really considering switching from a $16gallon product to a $35gallon product, why can't you spent the $10 for the 17oz bottle?
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06-13-09, 07:34
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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anyone have the msds or know the health rating of opc
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06-13-09, 09:17
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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I can't edit my posts for some reason so ill just say this simply, does OPC do anything that any other apc can't?
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OPC is leather friendly, not sure how many other APCs are.
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06-14-09, 09:46
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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OPC is leather friendly, not sure how many other APCs are.
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@ what dillution?
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06-14-09, 10:39
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
I'm a huge fan of Optimum's Power Clean. A month or so ago, I posed a question to whether or not OPC could be used in lieu of the more expensive P21s TAW. Not many responses but I opted to try it out anyways.
I originally tried the 3:1 dilution as recommended by optimum, and have had great results with it. 3:1 is stronger / more effective than P21s TAW, but it doesn't seem to have any adverse effects on the paint. The few spots that I have let dry have had the typical white haze, which easily comes off with a rinse of the panel or a swipe of the wash mitt.
On bugs and road grime, two applications of OPC have allowed me to rinse the front bumper cleanly without agitation via sponge. It also works really well in cleaning off exhaust soot from the rear bumper and exhaust tips themselves.
Overall for $35, I'm a fan. I've noticed no lubricity issues when washing with OPC + meguiar's GC.
Dave
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06-14-09, 03:47
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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@ what dillution?
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3:1. Very effective paint safe bug wash at that dillution ratio as well.
Since most Optimum products are relatively inexpensive (c'mon, seriously, 70-80 applications of Opti-Seal per bottle for $25 is CHEAP), it would be safe to assume that the price is due to the cost of the raw materials used to make OPC.
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08-31-09, 08:07
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
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I'm a huge fan of Optimum's Power Clean. A month or so ago, I posed a question to whether or not OPC could be used in lieu of the more expensive P21s TAW. Not many responses but I opted to try it out anyways.
I originally tried the 3:1 dilution as recommended by optimum, and have had great results with it. 3:1 is stronger / more effective than P21s TAW, but it doesn't seem to have any adverse effects on the paint. The few spots that I have let dry have had the typical white haze, which easily comes off with a rinse of the panel or a swipe of the wash mitt.
On bugs and road grime, two applications of OPC have allowed me to rinse the front bumper cleanly without agitation via sponge. It also works really well in cleaning off exhaust soot from the rear bumper and exhaust tips themselves.
Overall for $35, I'm a fan. I've noticed no lubricity issues when washing with OPC + meguiar's GC.
Dave
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I too am a user of P21S TAW and hate the $60 for 5 ltr, I think Im going to try the OPC for a change and well if I dont like it I can go back to TAW, Just hope OPC is just a safe on everything as TAW is.
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08-31-09, 08:26
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
I've become a huge fan of OPC. This is really a great product. I use it to clean my wheels, tires, engine, bug wash and just recently I started using it on interiors. I detailed my friend's Envoy recently and this had to be by far the dirties car I've ever seen. Imagine five years of sweat just caked onto the center armrest and driver side door...just nasty!! He said that he had tried different products on it and that it wasn't budging. I sprayed some OPC @ 3:1 and let it dwell until it was complety absorbed by the grime. I then gave it another light mist and wiped it all off on one pass. The armrest looked brand new again. The same thing happended with the door. It was at that moment that I became hooked on it.
The water where I live is super hard. If I let the windshield dry after hosing it off, it always looks like someone threw a bucket of muddy water on it. To combat this, I concocted a solution of Opt Car Wash (smells great!), OPC and distilled water. It leaves my windows crystal clear and it also helps to cut down on the amount of clutter. I no longer have a zillion different product bottles lying around.
Sorry for being long-winded. When I start talking about Optimum products, it's sometimes hard for me to stop. 
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08-31-09, 08:57
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Re: Optimum Power Clean Worth It?
Cool thread. I haven't tried OPC and agree with so many comments here, too many to quote. 
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