Interesting quote on Meguiars new 205

[MDRX8]

I can't see it would be better than PO85RD or 106FF

[Kevin Brown]

Great feedback!

May I make a recommendation for final finishing with M205 via random orbital?
Lots of super-experienced guys here so I do not wish to come across as a know-it-all, because I certainly do not!

This is what works best for me:

PREP:
• For final finishing with M205, use a fresh pad. Prime the pad thoroughly by rubbing M205 in with your hand. Make sure there are no dry spots on the pad face.

• Let it sit for a few minutes- this will allow the liquid to permeate the foam.

• Before using, press the pad face into a microfiber towel, use a slow speed setting, and turn the machine on. Let it run for 5-10 seconds while you work the towel against the pad. this will remove most of the "loose" abrasive grains, while applying a very thin coating to the foam structure.

• Apply five or six small dots of M205 to the pad.

POLISH:
• Apply using FIRM or SOLID pressure, use a speed setting in the low range. Ideally, the machine should be able to spin the pad a small degree- any amount will do. The goal is to keep the pad from "flat-spotting". We are not looking for speed- we just want slow and consistent movement of the pad. If the pad is spinning anything amount over 2-3 times per second, slow the speed setting even more. This is generalized because I have no idea which pad type or size you will be using, nor do I know how it will work on the paint type you are polishing.

•*Do NOT lift up on the pressure near the end of your cycle.

• Do NOT do lots of passes- too much use during an application cycle could load the abrasive material and pad with abraded paint residue, which can then cause micro-marring.

• If at all possible, use compressed air to blast the pad face clean before applying more M205.

• If marring persists, try a test spot by hand to ensure M205 is not marring the surface (use a microfiber applicator pad, microfiber towel, or foam applicator pad to apply. If there is no marring present, then perhaps a different polishing will work better.

Other than that, there will likely be times that M205 will not work as well as another product, but this should be a very rare occurrence. It has no built-in super-durable fillers like Ultrafina, so what you see is what you get.

Before it starts... that is NOT a stab against Ultrafina!

[Chicagoareanew]

What do you think about using 205 with a foam/wool combo pad? Is that acceptable or pushing the limits where 105 with foam would be better?

[Accumulator]

Originally Posted by Chicagoareanew

What do you think about using 205 with a foam/wool combo pad? Is that acceptable or pushing the limits where 105 with foam would be better?

I wouldn't to more aggressive than orange light cut foam with M205. It's a *finishing* polish after all. I wouldn't have even thought to use it with the orange had ebpcivicsi not recommended it, previously I only went as aggressive as the *Griot's* orange foam.

[Picus]

Originally Posted by MDRX8

I can't see it would be better than PO85RD or 106FF

It isn't, but it isn't supposed to be, imo. They are different, and I use them all in different situations. In my experience, 205 has much more cut than 106ff/rd/fpi/fpii, etc... that means it's perfect after 105. The menz finishing polishes are generally useless right after 105 because they don't have the cut to remove 105 marring. So basically I approach it like this.

If I am am using 105, most of the time I will follow with 205. In a lot of cases at that point I am done, which is awesome because it saves me a lot of time. If the paint is soft or I want to jewel the paint I will use a menz polish after 205. Another example - I just one-stepped an a4 with light marring and hard paint with 205. I rarely do one steps but with 205 I can; with 105 I can't because it doesn't finish clean enough and with the menz finishing polishes I can't because they have virtually no cut.

So ya, different uses on different paints.

[scholar]

question, has anyone tried 205 after menz SIP?

sorry if this question doesn't make sense to anyone.

thanks

[David Fermani]

Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

Was the declaration very far off the mark? I am interested to hear whether you believe M205 to be:

1. A favorite of yours.

2. A product you are still "on the fence" about.

3. An evil, evil foe!

I've played around with 205 via PCXP on the last 3 cars I've done (after prior product correction) and every time I've compared it to Menzerna 85RD on adjacent panels, the Menzerna looked noticeably better.

Kevin - Have you ever tried any Menzerna products? I'd be interested to know what you thought in comparison if so.

[Kevin Brown]

I have, but very limited, so I cannot give a fair comparison.

This is the reason I never give advice on Menzerna (or other products that I do not have a lot of experience with).

I have a couple dispenser bottles of Menzerna given to me by PorscheGuy997 that I need to break in to.
As it stands, I have a great opportunity to do some "blind testing" next week.
So I certainly will! Pics, too if I get the chance!

I will see if I have the 85rd and take it along. Is that the only one you recommend I try?

[David Fermani]

Super Intensive Polish & 106 FF/FA will be worth trying too. Expect long work times

[Cleaning Fool]

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Super Intensive Polish & 106 FF/FA will be worth trying too. Expect long work times

Fantastic combo. My go to as of late.

[Got_Leather]

The only time I use 85rd is if the paint is already corrected and I'm interested in achieving the extra gloss. "MOST" of the time I can go from M105 to 106FA via white pad and finish down with great results. If not, I'll use Menz 203 Power Finish after M105 and then finish with 85rd.

[Kevin Brown]

I have in my possession PO83 and PO106FA.

I will see if my cohort has some 85RD, then SIP, then 106FF/FA.