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Old 12-02-08, 07:27   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

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I have already applied 476s onto my car for the winter.

Would there be any bonding issues on applying #16 on top of 476s?
I've not tried this but I'd think the solvents in #16, or any other wax, might dissolve the 476. I don't believe you can effectively layer wax products.
 
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Old 12-02-08, 08:05   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

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I have already applied 476s onto my car for the winter.

Would there be any bonding issues on applying #16 on top of 476s?
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I've not tried this but I'd think the solvents in #16, or any other wax, might dissolve the 476. I don't believe you can effectively layer wax products.
While I've had good success layering certain waxes, I dunno if this one would work out I dunno....I guess it'd go OK, I'd be a little surprised if the solvents/etc. in #16 had an appreciable effect on the 476S.

I've spit-shined Souveran over 476S, and that worked OK but yeah, Souveran and #16are very different. I *would* employ some sort of spit-shine technique if trying this, however.

But really, I dunno if it'd be worth doing. I don't think the appearance difference would be very significant and I'd *MUCH* rather just have the 476S on there (our situation with the A8 is sufficiently unique that you shouldn't read much into it when it comes to winter protection).


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What are people using as a base for #16? I know it's great by itself, but I was wondering if anyone had any luck when using it in combination with another product.
I like applying 476S over a base of 845. Sounds goofy, huh? Seems like the less-durable 845 would compromise things, but it doesn't IME.

The 476S seems more user-friendly over the 845, hard to verbalize but I like it.

A nice added benefit: the base of 845 makes it easier to avoid wax build-up issues around tape/graphics/etc.

I apply the 845 one day and the 476S the next.

This is one combo I *really* like, glad I stumbled across it. Might work as well for others as it does for me, can't see why it wouldn't.

Otherwise, when doing beaters/other people's vehicles I usually apply the 476S after/over 1Z Paint Polish. This is probably my favorite quickie two-step and the 476S doesn't mess with the wax/stuff/whatever that the 1Z PP leaves behind.

476S is also great over Autoglym SRP, but the SRP is really just a low/no-cut AIO and this combo needs to be preceded by (real) polishing. The SRP/476S combo is possibly the most durable easy way to go with 476S (at least that *I've* tried).
 
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Old 12-02-08, 08:06   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

Am I correct but #16 has no abrasives or cleaners, so it should layer fine?
 
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Old 12-02-08, 08:19   #28 (permalink)
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Am I correct but..[#1]... #16 has no abrasives or cleaners, so ...[#2]..it should layer fine?
Correct on #1.

Not *certain*, but leaning strongly towards incorrect on #2.

I only get good results layering #16 if I spit-shine or wait a few days between applications (note that this opinion is different from what I'd posted a few years ago; I've been more conscientious about studying this). IME #16 does *not* layer in the way that some products do. Not saying it doesn't layer at all, but doing, for example, 3 applications one-after-the-other would be a waste of time/effort/product IMO.

It's probably a matter of the solvents/etc. in the #16, which can compromise underlying stuff even in the absence of abrasives.

I'm not sure though

But I'd definitely do some kind of spit-shining if you want to try building up layers of #16. These days I just do one application and redo it as needed.
 
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Old 12-02-08, 09:59   #29 (permalink)
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Many thanks, Accumulator!!!
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I haven't been using my #16 so I broke it out again and applied it to my cf hood over Danase Paint Sealant. It doesn't take away from the look in sunlight and beads water very well. A nuba with sealant tendencies.
I was just thinking about how that would look!! Tnx for reading my mind!!
 
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Old 12-02-08, 11:03   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

Oh man, I have a tin of 16 I used once, and wasn't impressed with. I was going to put it up for sell this week. You guys have convinced me to give it another shot.
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Old 12-02-08, 12:07   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

Thanks all for your responses.

Looks like I should wait for my next round of waxing and put #16 first and then 476s.

However by then, likely would want to try other combination's and many layers.
 
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Old 12-02-08, 12:24   #33 (permalink)
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..Looks like I should wait for my next round of waxing and put #16 first and then 476s...
Gee, I dunno if I'd try *that* either Sheesh, aren't *I* the wet blanket

I choose between the two waxes and just go with one or the other depending on the paint and the circumstances related to how the vehicle will be used.
 
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Re: Meguiars #16 paste wax

What's the point of adding one carnuaba on top of another?
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Old 12-02-08, 01:02   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah, you're right. Just stick with one. I just wanted to try as many waxes as possible and accumulate them.
 
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GREAT WINTER WAX .........pROBLEY THE BEST WAX MEG'S EVER MADE
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