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11-19-08, 04:27
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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 473 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... I think the old Zaino was prone to water spotting for sure, used to bug the heck out of me. Their new stuff is way better at repelling water spots. It's like night and day. CS. Z2pro, Z5pro and even ZAIO by itself are all excellent at keeping water spots from etching. It seam's to me all their new stuff is a "thicker" coat then the old stuff. No matter what, Zaino is definitely one of about 5 or 6 lineups that every one should try in my opinion.
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11-19-08, 05:25
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Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,505 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... 845 isn't the collinite you use for durability. 476s is.
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11-20-08, 08:13
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Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 23,095 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Yeah, I like 845 on exterior plastic and as a base for 476S, but by itself it doesn't impress me all that much. Seems a lot more durable with multiple applications/layers though.
Q for people using Zaino: how many layers do you use for good durability and protection?
I ask because I know a lot of people really layer on the Z but others probably don't. I can get near-indefinite durabilityand protection with many layers of KSG (as much so as I'd ever require) but with just a few layers the durability/protection isn't nearly as good as I get with 476S. | |
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11-20-08, 08:17
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Join Date: May 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC (actually Iron Station, NC) Posts: 1,379 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by Accumulator Yeah, I like 845 on exterior plastic and as a base for 476S, but by itself it doesn't impress me all that much. Seems a lot more durable with multiple applications/layers though.
Q for people using Zaino: how many layers do you use for good durability and protection?
I ask because I know a lot of people really layer on the Z but others probably don't. I can get near-indefinite durabilityand protection with many layers of KSG (as much so as I'd ever require) but with just a few layers the durability/protection isn't nearly as good as I get with 476S. | After polishing a vehicle, I'll do a wipedown to remove oils. Then, I'll apply a coat of ZAIO and remove. This makes a good base for Z2 or Z5. Then, I'll mix up some ZFXd Z2 or Z5 in the little bottle, and will then top the ZAIO with 2 layers of the mixture. Most of the time, I'll do Z6 wipedowns in between, but not always.
Additionally, sometimes I mix a 50/50 mixture of Z2 and Z5 in the bottle, add in the ZFX, and will add a squirt of Z8, shake this all up, and apply.
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11-20-08, 12:40
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 385 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... There has been a lot of good info posted up by everyone. It sounds like you just need to try it and see for yourself.
My question and not to jack the thread but what is the difference between Z2 and Z5. I'm going to take the plunge and try Zaino, I always have but never did it. I guess I'm bored with the sealants and waxes I have now. Don't get me wrong I love Wolfgang, Pinnacle, Natty's, and P21S. | |
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11-20-08, 01:06
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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,032 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by wannafbody If you want to try Zaino try ZAIO at the very least. ZAIO is pretty durable for an AIO type product. | Agreed, this is the one ZAIO product I'll probably always keep in stock.
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11-20-08, 01:07
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Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 617 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Does Z-AIO work as good or better than KAIO with other companies' sealants? (ie. Wolfgang DGPS 3.0, EX-P, 4*UPP, etc.)
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11-20-08, 01:07
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Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 72 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by zaxjax There has been a lot of good info posted up by everyone. It sounds like you just need to try it and see for yourself.
My question and not to jack the thread but what is the difference between Z2 and Z5. I'm going to take the plunge and try Zaino, I always have but never did it. I guess I'm bored with the sealants and waxes I have now. Don't get me wrong I love Wolfgang, Pinnacle, Natty's, and P21S. | Z5 is meant for darker colors because it has some minor filling abilities. | |
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11-20-08, 01:10
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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,032 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by Inzane Does Z-AIO work as good or better than KAIO with other companies' sealants? (ie. Wolfgang DGPS 3.0, EX-P, 4*UPP, etc.) | I top ZAIO with Optiseal with no problems.
The one thing that I'm not fond about the Zaino system is the amount of layers and ZFX (or whatever that additive is called.) A layer of Z2 > Z6 > Z5 > Z6 etc. Not saying that process is necessary, as It can be as simple as ZAIO > ZCS if you wnat, but...
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11-20-08, 01:36
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Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 26,649 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by Inzane Does Z-AIO work as good or better than KAIO with other companies' sealants? (ie. Wolfgang DGPS 3.0, EX-P, 4*UPP, etc.) | I've found Werkstat's Prime to be the best sealant base. Seems to wipe off the cleanest. | |
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11-20-08, 01:40
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Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 4,175 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by Accumulator Q for people using Zaino: how many layers do you use for good durability and protection? | I can't really remember a time when I've applied more than 3 coats at once or in a short period. Around here, 3 coats seems to last 6+ months with Z7/Z6 maintenance. With something like Z8 or ZCS as routine maintenance, it's possible to be greatly extended..
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11-20-08, 03:30
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#48 (permalink)
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 912 | Re: Giving zaino a chance... Quote:
Originally Posted by DownSouth Z5 is meant for darker colors because it has some minor filling abilities. | It also has a darkening effect, which I haven't seen with Z2. Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottwax I've found Werkstat's Prime to be the best sealant base. Seems to wipe off the cleanest. | And it works well with Z2/Z5. Actually, it looks great with just Prime/Z8. I just don't know how durable that is. Quote:
Originally Posted by Accumulator Q for people using Zaino: how many layers do you use for good durability and protection? | I've gotten 6+ months from one layer. | |
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