Sweet Lord M105 splatters/dusts like a banshee - Page 2

BuffMe · 06-30-08, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Picus

I mix it 8:1 with Opt Polish, I can pretty much work it as long as I want, and it cuts the dust too.

That was my next step. Although, as I stood looking at my new bottle of PO85RD, I couldn't help but think of mixing some of that with it and seeing how that went.

TortoiseAWD · 06-30-08, 12:01

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Originally Posted by BuffMe

... and the world may or may not have ended. I'm unsure at that point.

LOL

I don't think it did, but I did notice an odd noise just a while ago. I'll have to check.

FWIW, when I'm using M105 with the Flex and a foam pad, I keep the pad damp, and I'm only using about four pea-sized drops per section. The pad does gum up after a while, so I end up going through about four 6.5" pads on a medium sedan, plus a 4" pad for pillars and tight spots.

Hope you have better luck. M105 is kind of a pain to get the hang of, but it sure speeds up the work on badly swirled paint.

Tort

KnuckleBuckett · 06-30-08, 12:06

I have been farting around adding a bit of Ultrafina to lengthen working time and kill dusting.

Picus · 06-30-08, 12:32

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Originally Posted by BuffMe

That was my next step. Although, as I stood looking at my new bottle of PO85RD, I couldn't help but think of mixing some of that with it and seeing how that went.

Tried it, it doesn't work as well as OP imo, and of course it's more expensive. I tried SIP too, same as 8RD.

BuffMe · 06-30-08, 12:41

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Originally Posted by Picus

Tried it, it doesn't work as well as OP imo, and of course it's more expensive. I tried SIP too, same as 8RD.

Oh, ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I guess OP is the way to go, then. I know it's tried and true, I just like thinking outside the box when possible.

BTW, I tried the PO85RD as a finishing polish and it seemed way too light to finish down VW clear with a white pad at least. I would have thought since it was formulated for ceramiclears it would have at least made a dent in the holgramming/marring the M105 causes. Perhaps it would have been better paired with a low-profile 5.5" orange pad, however I have apparently lost my PC wrench to change the backing plate so I was stuck with the 6.5"s

gtpaul · 06-30-08, 01:10

Ive used FF or PO106FF to mix with the M105.

2 drops of M105 and a drop of either work well for me.

Picus · 06-30-08, 04:12

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Originally Posted by BuffMe

Oh, ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I guess OP is the way to go, then. I know it's tried and true, I just like thinking outside the box when possible.

BTW, I tried the PO85RD as a finishing polish and it seemed way too light to finish down VW clear with a white pad at least. I would have thought since it was formulated for ceramiclears it would have at least made a dent in the holgramming/marring the M105 causes. Perhaps it would have been better paired with a low-profile 5.5" orange pad, however I have apparently lost my PC wrench to change the backing plate so I was stuck with the 6.5"s

No way 8rd is going to clean up 105 on hard paint. I usually got 105/pfw then sip/white then 8rd/blue or black. So far that combo has been very good to me.

gregk · 06-30-08, 06:11

I have never really had dusting issues with M105 or M95, but like other Meguiars polishes, it can splatter easily if you use just a touch too much. I don't have splattering issues with any other polish. I have mixed M105 with HTEC 70/30 and it still has lots of cut, but I don't get splatter ever with it and HTEC is CHEAP! It is my go to starter now, and move to M105 if it does not have enough cut.

Scottwax · 06-30-08, 08:46

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Originally Posted by Picus

I mix it 8:1 with Opt Polish, I can pretty much work it as long as I want, and it cuts the dust too.

I've been doing that too, but more like 3:1. Much longer working time makes up for the somewhat reduced cut and having to work it 2-3 times at 30 second intervals.

BuffMe · 06-30-08, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Picus

No way 8rd is going to clean up 105 on hard paint. I usually got 105/pfw then sip/white then 8rd/blue or black. So far that combo has been very good to me.

Yep. SIP/White is what I finished down with. I just find a little confusing PO85RD is formulated for the "scratch-resistant, ceramic clear coats" like it's meant to really have some serious cut, but then it's also describes as a mild "gloss enhancing" polish.

KnuckleBuckett · 07-01-08, 04:27

I noticed a slightly reduced cut when I first started cutting it with the Ultrafina. I backed off a bit with the UF and seem to have found a good middle ground. More to come when I feel I have a better feel for the ratio.

If you have a job where you think 105 may have a bit too much cut, the UF addition is a perfect solution!

Note: Using LC CCS pads and a Flex 01.

SuperBee364 · 07-01-08, 08:39

Yeah, it does like to dust alot.

Now for you 105 mixers.... If you guys are mixing stuff into 105 to get longer working times, you might want to look into M95. It has a nice, long working time, it's easy to use, and since you're not having to mix/cut it for the working time, it cuts just as well as 105. And it costs about half. Honestly, why pay so much for 105 if you're just defeating it's purpose? Megs intended it to be a very short working time, heavy cut compound, and you're paying *alot* of money for their efforts.

Using M105 in the manner in which Megs intended does work very well, it just takes alot of getting used to. Since 105 is capable of doing it's intended work in a short 15 seconds or so, why would you want to drag it out longer, and with less cutting? Yup, that sounds like a *perfect* job for much less expensive 95.