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Old 06-20-08, 10:01   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 1 oz. of ONR is equal to...

I believe Danase sell those measuring containers as well.
 
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Old 06-20-08, 01:28   #14 (permalink)
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I just use those cheap 1oz measuring cups. I never trust cap measurements.
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Old 06-20-08, 02:04   #15 (permalink)
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...3.5 ONR capfuls, if you're using the gallon jug of ONR.

Last summer, someone pointed out that the labeling on the ONR gallon jug was incorrect; 1 oz of ONR was *not* two capfuls as stated on the label. It's correct for the quart sized container, though.

In my latest detailing supply order, I got a couple of those nifty mesuring devices that you screw onto the top of the jug, squeeze the jug, and it fills the measuring cup on top.

I try to mix ONR double strength, so I measured two ounces using the measuring cup, which turned out to be seven capfuls.

Anyway, it's nice to know exactly how much ONR you're measuring out, regardless of what you're using it for... washing, detailing, clay lube, etc.

Turns out I wasn't as close to mixing it double strength as I thought. I had been using five capfuls per two gallons of water. Seven is the magic number.
Why do you use ONR at double strength?
 
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Old 06-20-08, 02:06   #16 (permalink)
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Why do you use ONR at double strength?
Cause I have problems with it marring my paint. I get less marring at double strength (double the lube).
 
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Cause I have problems with it marring my paint. I get less marring at double strength (double the lube).
I'm no chemist, but I seriously doubt that you get twice the lubricity at double strength.

That said, I usually mix my ONR a little stronger than called for as well. Never had a problem.
 
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I'm no chemist, but I seriously doubt that you get twice the lubricity at double strength.

That said, I usually mix my ONR a little stronger than called for as well. Never had a problem.
Why's that, Rob? Ya lost me on this one...
 
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Why's that, Rob? Ya lost me on this one...
Think about it.

Do you think if you mix ONR at 30 times the recommended dilution, it will be 30x slicker?

How good do you think it would work at full strength?
 
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Think about it.

Do you think if you mix ONR at 30 times the recommended dilution, it will be 30x slicker?

How good do you think it would work at full strength?
Well, there's a big difference between the extremes, but at full strength you *would* get the maximum lubrication. Adding twice the amount of lube is adding twice the amount of lube, ya know?

If I take a bottle of motor oil, and dilute it by half with some non-lubricating agent (equal to water in the ONR equation), how much lubricity have I lost?

This has the potential of blowing up into a full blown arguement, and I doubt either side is gonna change their mind about it. I'll still be of the opinion that mixing it at double strength is gonna be equal to double the lubrication regardless of what others might say. I'm just gonna be stubborn that way this time.
 
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Well, there's a big difference between the extremes, but at full strength you *would* get the maximum lubrication. Adding twice the amount of lube is adding twice the amount of lube, ya know?

If I take a bottle of motor oil, and dilute it by half with some non-lubricating agent (equal to water in the ONR equation), how much lubricity have I lost?

This has the potential of blowing up into a full blown arguement, and I doubt either side is gonna change their mind about it. I'll still be of the opinion that mixing it at double strength is gonna be equal to double the lubrication regardless of what others might say. I'm just gonna be stubborn that way this time.
Well, like I said, I'm no chemist!
 
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...I'll still be of the opinion that mixing it at double strength is gonna be equal to double the lubrication regardless of what others might say. I'm just gonna be stubborn that way this time.
I don't know if you can quantify lubricity this way, but if it works for you (i.e. you got marring at full strength and don't at double strength) then stick with it! You can't argue with results.
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I use a clear flip top dispensor bottle from Jeff's W. I use a stainless steel shot glass to measure 1 oz of ONR.
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Well, there's a big difference between the extremes, but at full strength you *would* get the maximum lubrication. Adding twice the amount of lube is adding twice the amount of lube, ya know?

If I take a bottle of motor oil, and dilute it by half with some non-lubricating agent (equal to water in the ONR equation), how much lubricity have I lost?

This has the potential of blowing up into a full blown arguement, and I doubt either side is gonna change their mind about it. I'll still be of the opinion that mixing it at double strength is gonna be equal to double the lubrication regardless of what others might say. I'm just gonna be stubborn that way this time.
IMO diluting ONR is no different than diluting an APC the more the stronger.
 
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