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Old 05-25-08, 08:02   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Most innovative brand?

AFAIK, the Blue Coral Touchless was the first (don't count the disastrous results here), but also the Japanese and Germans (Soft99, A1) have WOWA sealants too.

Yes, companies who offer WOWA sealants, residueless AIO, worthy permanent coatings, functional anti-static products, new generation abrasives, extreme filling & corrosion inhibiting LSPs, functional touchless foam washes are among the most innovative.

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Old 05-25-08, 08:06   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Most innovative brand?

I've just started trying 1Z products and I really like them so far, the Metallic Polish & Wax is a great AIO, better than Poliseal IMHO and provides a nice base for the Glans Wax, a top notch product that has replaced Zaino for me.

My wife used the Cockpit Premium on her dash in the van and it looked better than the day we bought it.
 
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Old 05-25-08, 08:52   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Most innovative brand?

i would say the new WOW sealants and the british company looked quite intriging to me.

also throw in new Acrylic glazes from Chemical guys whic makes danase speeed glaze the look great and i luv the acrylic candy look the give.
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Old 05-25-08, 09:07   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Most innovative brand?

Mongo, Bob from Danase has very enthusiastically stated that DWG is *not the same as* EZ Creme Glaze and *not manufactured by* Chemical Guys. I don't see any reason to doubt him.

This rumor keeps popping up constantly like a bad STD. It kinda needs to stop. Bob got a two week time out last time he defended his product. He is understandably frustrated by this.
 
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Old 05-25-08, 09:27   #17 (permalink)
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I'd say Optimum
everything i've used by them thus far, i've been pretty happy with as well...
 
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Old 05-25-08, 09:39   #18 (permalink)
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Zaino- the first to market with a WOWO.
It was the worst one (based on trying all three side by side) so being first isn't something to brag about. It has been reformulated at least once, both OS and UPGP are still the original formulas.
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Re: Most innovative brand?

What is Optimum product X that someone mentioned .
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What is Optimum product X that someone mentioned .
Not out yet, probably several months away. Supposed to be an actual coating that should provide 5 years of protection. Other than a very early test sample, I haven't tested it myself so I have no opinion on it one way or another.
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Re: Most innovative brand?

I must agree on the Optimum product line! PoliSeal leaves a very nice, slick finish and is super easy to use (and affordable!). ONR has a ton of uses. I just tried OID for the first time the other day, and was blown away by the finish it leaves. Use it after a wash to wipe down streaks and spots, and it looks like you just spent 10 hours polishing. Highly recommended.

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It was the worst one (based on trying all three side by side) so being first isn't something to brag about. It has been reformulated at least once, both OS and UPGP are still the original formulas.
After using both Ver1 of CS and OS. IMO I could not see how OS was any better in looks. OS was applied to a champagne gold camry that Bret and I did as a LSP. I did not notice much a difference in appearance at all:

2005 Camry-Thoughts on opti-seal

So innovation of the technology and continual improvement is nothing to brag about?

IMO OS now being a distant third to the other two WOWO products is clearly nothing to brag about.
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After using both Ver1 of CS and OS. IMO I could not see how OS was any better in looks. OS was applied to a champagne gold camry that Bret and I did as a LSP. I did not notice much a difference in appearance at all:

2005 Camry-Thoughts on opti-seal


IMO OS now being a distant third to the other two WOWO products is clearly nothing to brag about.
I used the side by side, along with UPGP. ZCS was CLEARLY a distant 3rd. Not even close. UPGP looked the best upon initial application but after the next wash, OS and UPGP looked very similar, while ZCS continued to lag far behind. Use it if you want, I prefer to put on LSPs that make a noticable improvement in the finish.

Side by side tells you a lot more than just using a product on a car, then a different one on a different car. Should have used it side by side with ZCS. The difference is very obvious.

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So innovation of the technology and continual improvement is nothing to brag about?
...except somehow Sal didn't get it right with ZCS until OS and UPGP were already out?
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I used the side by side, along with UPGP. ZCS was CLEARLY a distant 3rd. Not even close. UPGP looked the best upon initial application but after the next wash, OS and UPGP looked very similar, while ZCS continued to lag far behind. Use it if you want, I prefer to put on LSPs that make a noticable improvement in the finish.

Side by side tells you a lot more than just using a product on a car, then a different one on a different car. Should have used it side by side with ZCS. The difference is very obvious.

...except somehow Sal didn't get it right with ZCS until OS and UPGP were already out?
Depends on how much help your finish needs. Prep is the key. But that is a different discussion for a different time.

I read about how OS was 3-5 years in the making, funny how it was not released untill after clear seal was out on the market. Somebody had to figure out how to do it (carriers.)

I am not sure how someone is supposed to take your evaluation of a product serious if you are not testing the most recent version of that product. When I have seen you talk about CS in the past, you never mention that you where using an early version of CS when you state your findings.

It would be the same if I said NXT performed poor against product x. Most folks would ask (rightly so) if I tried V2 of NXT.
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