Menzerna SIP and 106FF = Holy Grail! - Page 3

SpoiledMan · 12-06-07, 09:38

Aaron, I can't agree more. I prefer IP with wool much more than SIP with wool. SIP seems to matt the wool for me and then just do nothing.

Grouse · 12-06-07, 09:40

good to hear since you are the one that told me that little tid bit

SpoiledMan · 12-06-07, 10:27

I guess that's why I agree.

TH0001 · 12-06-07, 10:55

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Somebody will chime in and say that the same can be accomplished with other cheaper polishes. I've tried many others and there's simply a Menzerna difference. Oh yeah, the "filler" crew is on the way too.

My 6000th post!

Menzerna is the number one polish in the world, IMO. I have yet to see a polish that doesn't fill though (except for Zaino Z-PC, which only workds 5 percent of the time)...

SpoiledMan · 12-06-07, 11:07

Well, there has to be a reason that many aren't seeing this filling that some see.

rydawg · 12-06-07, 11:22

They are a great combo for harder paints.

rydawg · 12-06-07, 11:33

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Well, there has to be a reason that many aren't seeing this filling that some see.

A lot of it has to do with the pad and soft paint. But even when it did have the filling effect, 95% of all other polishes did too on the same paint/pad combo. Ultrafina on a blue pad was the only one that finished off 100% on ultra soft clears with no adverse effects.

Just like Menzerna said, they were designed for SRC clears and can be used on harder clears along with some soft ones.

On hard clears they do kick butt!!!!!

SpoiledMan · 12-06-07, 11:38

I don't know what the reason/solution is but I own a car with soft black paint and take care of my sisters '02 Lexus IS with soft black paint. I just don't have any filling issues with either. I'm wondering if it's got something to do with cars that have wax used on them a lot?

DennisH · 12-06-07, 11:39

I don’t think either 106FF or 85RD fillers that fills. I could be total off base but I have played around with this theory and have been able to duplicated on several different non metallic reds and blacks. What I have found is if you use a green pad and 106FF on medium swirls you can finish down to what looks like a LSP ready finish but if you do a PrepSol wipe down and right light you are close but no quite swirl free. What I think happens is the lubricating oil in Menzerna polishes are not filling but disguising swirls temporally, the lubrication adds gloss with in affect makes swirls hard to detect. To me, filling would be use of clay substance to temporally fill the swirls. I think people, like me, that use 106FF and 85RD primarily as a finish or jeweling polish are finishing to a LSP ready finish and are not seeing what some call fill properties of Menzerna polishes. Just my thoughts!!!

Rob Tomlin · 12-06-07, 11:39

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Well, there has to be a reason that many aren't seeing this filling that some see.

Because we are blind?

SpoiledMan · 12-06-07, 11:43

I finish with the softer green pad as well. It could boil down to how each of us works the polishes.

rydawg · 12-06-07, 11:47

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Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

I don't know what the reason/solution is but I own a car with soft black paint and take care of my sisters '02 Lexus IS with soft black paint. I just don't have any filling issues with either. I'm wondering if it's got something to do with cars that have wax used on them a lot?

They did say if the paint had a previous wax that had the older silicones, then it would give wierd reactions. It could be part of the problem too.

95% of it is pad. A white pad will leave abrasions. If you top it with a LSP, then you will not see the abrasions for a long time. If you do not top it at all, you will see it in a week or 2.

I gathered all of my info from over 20 top pros here.

SOLUTION: Use a blue LC pad with 106 and the problem is cured.