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Old 09-07-05, 07:49   #1 (permalink)
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September Entry - my car! (dial-up unfriendly, sorry)

I apologize in advance for the length (grab a drink!) and to those of you who saw this as it progressed already.

Hopefully doing your own car doesn't break any rules. I wasn't going to put this in the contest but having down ~80 hours of work on it (and needing more supplies!) I decided to go for it.

Here is the back-story on this car and its paint.

Bought the car in June '05 pre-owned from an Infiniti dealer. They had two identical cars (this one had 31k on it, other had 36k), same year, color, options, but this one was ~$2,000 less because of the paint condition, they figured it needed an entire repaint. The previous owner had it washed only when he had it serviced, if that says anything. When I decided I wanted one of the two it came down to choosing which. At the time my car detailing experience was limited to hand detailing, mostly with Canadian Tire bought Meg's products. I figured I would try to fix what I could myself (I've always been an automotive type guy) and worst case scenario, I'd have it re-painted.I had to admit I almost didn't do it, the thing that was really intimidating were that some of the scratches were right down to the metal.

So, before I get to process and pics you can likely surmise that in the end I bought a PC, learned how to chip repair and wetsand and well as remove some dents, learned where to find my local free lift to clean wheels and replace parts, and got a ton of info from Autopia, in particular thanks to Jdookie, Scottwax, Accumulator, Fujifast, pappijay, spitshined, ScubaSteveO, JBM and others too numerous to mention. Sounds cheesy but I got most of my info from you folks.

So ok, here are the befores that I have. Sorry I don't have that many but what I have you can gauge the overall condition.

This is after a wash and clay. It looked worse before but you get the idea. All those white spots are paint chips, there were 100+ that required filling on the from bumper, hood, and fenders. As you can see the front underspoiler is ravaged, too.


Here is the only shot I have of the swirls. Sadly this was after my first polish, but again, you get the idea. That blob in the middle is a paint chip repair blob waiting to be wetsanded


My fender had a fight with a grocery cart and lost.Those two scratches were about the size of a pencil and were down to the metal.


A random chip shot. This one was on the gas flap lip, it has been cleaned and primed in this picture, it was to the metal.


Process was as follows, in some semblance of order over the course of two weeks, a lot of setbacks and failures, and many hours. (edit - realized I didn't post a product picture and list)

A lot of touchup paint and Isopropylene alcohol
3M 1200, 2000, 3000 grit sandpaper
Zaino Z7 wash & Sonus gloss shampoo
Z-18 clay
Poorboys SSR 1, 2.5, and 3
Optimum compound and polish
Zaino Z5, Z2pro, ZFX
Clearkote RMG
Poorboys EX w/carnauba
Poorboys Nattys blue wax

Z-6 QD, and Poorboys S&G DQ, Poorboys S&W for dust removal
Zaino Z9 and 10 leather cleaner/conditioner
Dupont teflon wheel cleaner, Michilen brake dust repellant
Z-16 tire dressing for tires and plastic trim
Stoners on windows
303 protectant for wheel wells, interior



I washed and clayed the car then washed and clayed it again. I then rubbed the entire car down with ISA:water and garaged it for the coming two weeks of joy. I started with the paint repairs - got the appropriate paint from my dealer and went to town with the toothpick method on the small chips, and a pen on the larger ones. I'd say I filled in about 100, of those 60-70 required wetsanding. The two toughest were those fender grocery cart ones, took 5 'coats' with the pen. I did this over the course of a weekend. The following week after about 50 hours of drying I attacked some of the blobs with langka. That worked ok, but not as well as I would have liked, so I decided to wetsand. This was a big step for me since I had just bought the PC a week or so before, and was a little hesitant to take sandpaper to the car - but I followed instructions and in no time my entire hood and front bumper were sanded, as well as many spots on the rest of the car. Sorry I didn't take pictures of this part, I now wish I had but at the time it was the last thing on my mind.

I have to say that Wednesday night was very nerve wracking. The entire front of my car was sanded down and it looked terrible. I slept badly.

The next day I went to work with the polish. Washed then polished with SSR2.5 and an orange LC cutting pad with the PC. This did almost nothing, so I moved to SSR3 and met with limited success. After some posting here I got some good info then tried again with SSR 2.5 the next day and had much better results. Here is that touch up from above after wetsanding and polishing.

This is from about an inch away.


And here is my fender, the one with the grocery cart damage. You can still see some of my sanding marks in this picture.


The entire polishing process actually lasted four days days. I did the hood the first day with SSR2.5 and a cutting pad, then the bumper, then the rest. The forth day I did the entire car with SSR2.5 and a polishing pad then SSR1 and a polishing pad. The next day I took the car to the local lift and took off the wheels and exhaust and cleaned them both. I also replaced my front rear underspoiler and side sills (they were mashed), and sanded down the rear underspoiler. The Interior process was mostly vacuum, 303, Z9 and Z10. The interior was actually in OK shape.



The next day I did a final polish and LSP. I did Zaino first, (z5x2, then Z2).

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More:

Now I wasn't completely happy with the way Zaino looked on my car, that's not to say I don't like its ease of use and durability. I just like a deeper, wetter look. I also noticed I hadn't removed all of the sandpaper marring, so I wanted to polish again. So this time I used with Optimum compound followed by Optimum polish, then followed that with Clearkote RMG via PC on a finishing pad (wait 24 hours), Poorboys EX w/carnauba via PC on a finishing pad x2 with 24 hours in between, and Natty's blue by hand. Now I am happy with my results. RMG covered some of the flaws I wasn't able to get out, and adds a really deep warm look to the black, ex w/carnauba does the same with good durability, and natty's, well that's just about the wettest wax I've ever used. So here you go (hood got the most work, so the most shots).

















Hola! I just realized I'm like a corporate ad in this picture, Boulevard Brewery shirt and hat.


The last thing I think I am going to do is color wetsand a few areas, like the trunk lid where there is quite a bit of orange peel (see the pic with the Infiniti logo). Most of the car is ok, just a couple areas are "???", so that's the next project.

Since then I've been lucky enough to come across some nice salvage finds. Z-tube from a wrecked Z along with its stock springs, which gave me a 1 inch drop and less understeer to the front, and an '05 exhaust, which is nice. Thanks for looking.

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Old 09-07-05, 08:58   #3 (permalink)
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That does look nice!
Any close up after shots of the same before areas?
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Old 09-07-05, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks! In the original post the picture with the filled in chip this is the before/after (you can see the chip fill in the second picture still, just less since its been wetsanded. You cant see it from more than a foot away):



And the fender scratches this is the before/after. In the second pic you can still see some sanding marks in the top left. I got those out after I took the picture.


 
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Since it was requested ( ) I will post some more closeup before/afters. I didn't post these before because I thought the afters kind of sucked with the poor lighting. I only scanned the ones that seem worthwhile to post. The after closeups are mostly inside my garage, so I apologize for the lighting but I shined a highpowered spotlight on them so you can see the improvement. I didn't want to put too many pictures up but this is the Xtreme Detail section so here goes!

Bumpercover (this is above the plate to the left)



after (it isn't perfect, there are still some pits, but no white chips)



Close-up ofleft side of hood above grill (you can see all the touchup blobs)


Swirls on hood.


After (aside from the ones above, these are closer)


Still some marring, probably not coming out.

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Roof swirls


After (closeup with direct light, for others see above)


Spoiler before:


After (again, for others see above):
 
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That paint looks 150 million times better!


I can't believe how much polishing you did, but damn did it pay off! I bet you learned a lot on this detail .
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That paint looks 150 million times better!


I can't believe how much polishing you did, but damn did it pay off! I bet you learned a lot on this detail .
Thanks!!! And yes, you can say that again. Experience really does teach you a lot, you can read and learn and prepare, but there is no subsitute for experience. That said, I honestly don't know how some of the pros on this site do this. I had delusions of doing this on the side, now I know I am going to stick to family and leave it to the pros. I know not every detail is like this, but even on days where I polished for 2-4 hours I was feeling it. You guys get a hats off from me!
 
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looks great!

i wander how much clearcoat is left
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On the areas that were wetsanded? I wondered that too - I have a friend in NY State with a paint thickness guage, next time I see him I'm going to try it out. I think right now I'm still ok, but I know that I probably don't have much room for serious polishing in the future, but that's ok because I plan on keeping the car looking good, so I shouldn't need more than a cleaning polish maybe once a year in the future.

Thanks for the kind comments.
 
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Nice afters!!
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Just checking out the competition . The G35 looks absolutely awesome, I got tired just reading your process. Great job picus.
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