Business Owners: Whcih most applies to you when you decide on a LSP?

Ed Hartman · 01-17-05, 07:17

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Scottwax · 01-17-05, 07:44

I detail a lot of black vehicles, probably 30-40% of all the vehicles I do each week are black (100% today!), so I tend to go with carnaubas or sealants like Wolfgang or EX w/carnauba for the depth. Most of my regulars get their vehicles waxed about every 2 month and the Dallas area is pretty wax friendly anyway. On those who maybe only get their cars detailed/waxed a couple times a year, I recommend a sealant option.

AutoNova · 01-17-05, 07:47

What about #26, I don't hear alot of people mention it lately but it is a good product for depth and protection. Easy to apply and remove, affordable and easy to find. I think #80 and #26 has become a favorite combo on darker vehicles.

Jimmy Buffit · 01-17-05, 07:50

98 % of the time, no, 99% of the time , I make the call.
My clients expect clean, shiney cars. They are told that we use acrylic polymer sealants (in lieu of a wax).

That's the extent of our discussion.

JDookie · 01-17-05, 08:13

The bottom line is that most people won't understand the difference from product A to product B, all they want is a good looking car. I'd choose for them since certain products look better on certain colors, durability, etc.

White95Max · 01-17-05, 08:31

I usually choose for my customers. They mostly just want a shiny car, but they prefer to have the protection last longer so I go with a sealant.

Burlyq · 01-17-05, 09:38

This could have just been a thread instead of a poll, you might have got better answers if your thinking about going into business, are you? I used to use pro-line products but over time usual customers would complain about durabilty. These days I carry 4 or 5 polymer/acrylic sealants at a time and a few carnubas. Some of my customers want a specific sealant, but when I finish what I have in stock I am going to try to stick with Zaino. The one thing every customer of mine wants is two coats so it's my only option unless I keep cars two or more days. Many detailers don't offer two coats, that's cool if it works for them, I prefer to charge a little extra and give them what I think is best for their car. I always educate my clients and let them chose. I'll throw turtle wax on it if that's what they ask for. With the new Z2pro I think it's a deeper shine so I'm hoping a can do away with the topper. I'm trying the new stuff later this week so I will know after I see the car. I just want to simplify my detailing cabinet that has over 100 products in it. The one thing about Zaino is that the car has to be preped right so some detailers might chose something different. But I do high end details only these days so Zaino happens to fit perfect for what I need. If you want to be an express detailer I'd pick something else, something with fillers, high gloss chalked full of shine enhancing oils, something that is a one step product that leaves a deep shine. It wont be as durable as others but it will get the job done fast.

Scottwax · 01-17-05, 09:53

Burlyq-I have one customer who always wants two coats, so I usually go with a sealant topped with a carnauba. Makes him pretty happy!

Burlyq · 01-17-05, 10:17

If I use a nuba, and I do a lot, I always keep the car at least 10 hours. That way I polish then I put the sealant on and let it sit for 7 hours then top. You always put your topper on before it cures you put nuba? Doesn't that give poor durabilty, or does it not matter as much because your customers come every 90 days? You use #16 so you probably have good durabilty anyway. I made a change in my business 5 years ago and tried to get durable sealants that last 6 months. I increased my charge by 1/2 but most of my customers only come twice a year except the ones with money who don't care about the charge. I do special things for my customers who come more often of course. I will say since I changed to these super sealants my customers have all been very happy with durabilty and looks. Instead of incuring the extra charge myself, I have a product fee on the invoice $10.00. I've never had a complaints with this way of doing it.

Scottwax · 01-17-05, 10:25

I'm mobile, so I don't keep the vehicles with me. It is very rare I can go back the next day, especially this time of year since the days are so short and I am scheduled fully through next Thursday morning (as in 10 days from now).

Honestly, I don't really think you get much added durability from 2 layers vs 1, but he wants two layers, I give him two layers.

mirrorfinishman · 01-18-05, 04:52

What is a LSP?

F 355 · 01-18-05, 05:28

Ditto... What's LSP? Not in glossary.

I'be been gone from this site a long time...need to catch up on what's new. Liquid Sealer Protectant?

SCOTTWAX - I was looking at some of your old threads... and have a question...

BTW - Sold the Ferrari (after winning 8 concours) and bought a Lambo Diablo (red). Paint is near perfect.

Applied Speed Glaze with yellow pad (did not need DACP). Ordered EX + Carb. Be here Wed.

Quesiton... Does EX have any cut or pure sealant. How to you put it on, hand or RO? Can you layer it?

Thanks
Frank