Poll - Have you ever tried Menzerna Polishes - Yes or No? - Page 4

paintxpert · 09-28-09, 06:45

When I first joined autopia.org about amonth ago I stated Menzerna is a mainstay in my barrage of products I use the 106FF like a purple color compound. They have several cutting grades, but the others seem to powder more. Some other products I would not be WITHOUT is the product from Zaino called FUSION...it is yellow and a pleasure to use for medium CORRECTION. The other product which has been a mainstay is DRY-WASHNGUARD their newest product is great ...I still always finish with a high temp wax just for added protection. My job is warranteed to bead for 6 months OR I DO IT AGAIN FREE! Ben LeoneDetailer

Accumulator · 09-29-09, 10:13

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

Makes total sense. Thanks for sharing. Before this whole filling thing was brought to light, who would have known?

Yeah, sure took me by surprise and mortified the guy who did the work (oh sheesh...messed up Accumulator's huge black truck

).

There was a real [stuff]-storm over this issue a while back, with some pretty contentious comments from both sides. I had paid it zero attention at the time.

carmine1149 · 10-23-09, 02:24

Hi. After seeing a new black BMW 1 series corrected by rickrack and rydawg at Unique, I thought I'd give Menzerna products a try on my new Acura TL that had scratches, halograms and whatever else could be wrong in the Crystal Black finish.

I sent away for a bottle of Power Finish and some 85RD, which I applied using a variety of different colored foam pads on a PC. After the car polishing was done and I wiped it down with ISP, the level of gloss and depth was unbelievable, not to mention scratch free and halogram free. I must say it made a believer out of me.

Thank you to everyone out there who shares their experience, photos and all of their different methods with the rest of us who are looking to learn, and certainly admire your accomplishments. It's already opened a lot of new doors for me. Thanks again...Carmine

carmine1149 · 10-23-09, 02:57

As I stated elsewhere, I got amazing results with Menzerna products. What I forgot to mention, is that when I bought these products (just recently), I also took the plunge and bought the PC and used it for the very first time on my car from beginning to end. I wouldn't think of going back to a rotary unless I got a car to do with some "hard-as-nails" clearcoat. Nice thing with the PC, also, is that it doesn't fling a lot of product all over the car. Lastly, when I got my car looking like it should, I sealed it with Blackfire Wet Diamond sealer (also an amazing product) Just my opinion. Hope I've been of some help...Carmine

Darkstar752 · 10-23-09, 03:28

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Yeah, sure took me by surprise and mortified the guy who did the work (oh sheesh...messed up Accumulator's huge black truck

).

There was a real [stuff]-storm over this issue a while back, with some pretty contentious comments from both sides. I had paid it zero attention at the time.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention... That's scary. Do you believe all Menzerna polishes have really durable concealers? Menzerna's all I use, and I always do IPA wipedowns but what I'm worried about is the IPA not being strong enough to remove the fillers if they are that strong.

And paintxpert, stop advertising your business everywhere. It's ****ing annoying that I have to read through 10 lines of you advertising your business before I get to the 1 line that is an actual response to the thread. Your almost as bad as GoudyL.

MuttGrunt · 10-23-09, 04:19

voted yes - love them and use them regularly. Everything has strengths and weaknesses, so sometimes we're using Menzerna, sometimes Meg's, and other times 3M

Rob Tomlin · 10-23-09, 04:39

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Originally Posted by Darkstar752

Thanks for bringing this to my attention... That's scary. Do you believe all Menzerna polishes have really durable concealers? Menzerna's all I use, and I always do IPA wipedowns but what I'm worried about is the IPA not being strong enough to remove the fillers if they are that strong.

"Durable concealers"? I wouldn't say that at all. Nothing that a wipe down with IPA wont fix.

outlander · 10-23-09, 05:57

YES i HAVE USED INTENSIVE POLISH AND FINAL POLISH BOTH HAVE GIVEN ME GREAT RESULTS ON 3 OF THE BLACK CARS I HAVE DONE.

a.k.a. Patrick · 10-24-09, 08:28

I will forever be a Menzerna virgin. There PR destroyed any hope of ever trying it. And further more, Im just fine without it.

Rob Tomlin · 10-24-09, 09:00

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Originally Posted by a.k.a. Patrick

I will forever be a Menzerna virgin. There PR destroyed any hope of ever trying it. And further more, Im just fine without it.

How do you know that you are fine without it if you haven't tried it?

Also, does the term "cutting off your nose to spite your face" ring a bell?

Accumulator · 10-24-09, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Darkstar752

Thanks for bringing this to my attention... That's scary. Do you believe all Menzerna polishes have really durable concealers? Menzerna's all I use, and I always do IPA wipedowns but what I'm worried about is the IPA not being strong enough to remove the fillers if they are that strong..

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

"Durable concealers"? I wouldn't say that at all. Nothing that a wipe down with IPA wont fix.

Darkstar752- I don't really know much about Menzerna stuff other than the 106FF filling I've observed and my limited experience with whichever 106 version is sold as BlackFire

There was some talk here about "paint swelling" as opposed to conventional filling, but I know absolutely nothing about that myself.

If I were concerned about concealing (and it'd only be related to 106FF), I'd do both IPA and Prep Wash wipedowns.

But IMO you can avoid the whole issue by not trying to get 106FF to do more serious correction than it's really (IMO) suited for. Get things really, really nice before using any finishing polish and concealing shouldn't be an issue.

Darkstar752 · 10-24-09, 10:15

Thanks Accumulator. I sometimes use it mixed with 85RD to clear up holograms on softer paint, and I would be pretty pissed if holograms just slowly started showing up a couple months later on some of my jobs. Apart from this concealer thing, it is a great polish and easy to work with.

The new P203S is where it's at though, finishes like 106 but cuts like SIP. Then I follow it up with some 85RD and it leaves a great finish for a 2-step job.